[–] Germ22 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

you should post stuff about your work to v/machinists

[–] screamingrubberband [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Hmmm... did not know that existed!

[–] Germ22 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

we need more content. i have been lacking in posting stuff myself lately as well.

[–] peacegnome 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

You would be a big fan of Bev Harris; she's been at this for many years.

I think that we should popularize an open source project for voting and have it be able to be deployed by a normal IT staff from a county (or a contractor if they don't have staff). If a county or state would like to use it then it would be free, and if it was even slightly popular then we could fund audits.

Right now everything is proprietary and when we have glimpsed what is going on it is always bad.

Also, it is 2020, we could easily do paper ballots, in person, with id, with complete chain of custody; then scan these ballots and put the scans online (torrent per county or precinct, or just aws, it wouldn't cost much), then the data people of the world could process them and find problems. Right now we get these blips of data with nothing backing them like "biden gains 140000, trump gains nothing, no comments attached for this delta", and until there is a recount even the party reps can't see what happened. They are obviously hiding something, this is how someone cheating acts. And really it should be a zero trust process, treating vote counting as anything else is ignorant and irrational.

[–] Hand_of_Node ago 

treating vote counting as anything else is ignorant and irrational.

I'm going to argue that this is incorrect on two counts. Firstly, we don't treat vote counting as anything else, which is the problem. Secondly, the implication that a cheat-friendly system is irrational is the opposite of reality. When the winners gain the ability to literally control the lives of the losers, and the larger number is the only criteria that matters, ensuring your sides ability to "think outside the box" (cheat) is very rational in a society composed of cultures and races at war.

You're correct about how to make the ballots more secure, and the count more accurate, but that is clearly not what the actual owners of the United States want.


A popular meme account on one of the chans said "It's all a show. You're watching a movie."

The cult followers interpreted it as intended, to only apply to a specific instance, but it was the literal truth about the operation of what we perceive as 'our society'. Few enjoy the idea of essentially being cattle on a feedlot, or even in a pasture with real grass, so the vast majority of us cattle focus instead on the minutiae of everyday life. How to make the distribution of hay more fair. Who gets milked first. Whether the electricity powering the milking machines comes from sustainable sources...

[–] Noctis_Labyrinthus 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

For a second I thought you were trying to claim you are a machinist who writes G-Code. I was about to light into you saying G-Code is not the same things as a software engineer who writes code to interface with specific API's or board level IC's at the bit level.

However it sounds like you are, for a lack of better terms, writing the brains for the machine that uses G-code inputs.

Glad you're here

[–] screamingrubberband [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Thx. I generally only get as far as "Well, with G code..." before getting blasted that "Oh so you don't know what you're talking about" when in reality, most of the (computer) code strategies in most languages can also be used in G code, but very few people use available functions to do that. It allows some really amazing G code programs... When I have more time I may brag about some of my successes. I may be heading to /v/machinists later on today.

[–] Noctis_Labyrinthus 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I might swing by and take a look as well. G-code has always interested me. I have been confined to my C++, java, python, sql bubble for too long.

[–] lipids 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

No wonder those machines are so damn expensive.

Since you would know, how long between recertifications? I'm sure their tolerances aren't perfect forever.

[–] screamingrubberband [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

That is a loaded question... I work for a division of a machine-tool OEM, but am not too involved in the 'normal' machine sales. Our machines have thermal expansion checks in the ballscrews, and some level of automatic backlash compensation. Both of these are in the background and are beyond what the control adjusts. Because of that, our service techs mostly replace worn-out motors and seals and boards, but will rarely also rebuild spindles and re-finish/scrape bedways.

Our division typically sells machines that are single-part specific for high-volume runs (automotive, aerospace... like that) with custom workholding and automatic offsetting from a part-specific custom in-process gage. One of our customers has seven machines in production for going on eight years, making 80-lb cast iron housings. The same 2 parts over and over and over. Our service department has been called there one time to perform a ball-bar test on each machine just as a part of the customer's preventative maintenance schedule. They were all within 5 microns except the vertical that drills the fastening holes for a bearing cap (2 per housing); it has drilled and tapped the same four holes in the same location so many times that there is a 15 micron step in the bedways near the edge of the table opposite the tool changer because the machine has NEVER traveled there.

So... almost never!

[–] lipids ago 

Thanks for the reply. Interesting stuff.

[–] bbqchipz ago  (edited ago)

Another interesting thing to note, that when you re-setup a cnc machine to do say like 30 different jobs in a year, alot of the time when you're setting up a job you're actually basically re-certifying and telling the cnc machine where it's supposed to work anyway. I work in shop that does some very precise work, and some of the cnc machines are only starting to show their 30+ years of age because they can't get replacement parts for the things wearing out in them.

[–] 26290971? 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Yep, this sounds quite reasonable. Always wanted to see CNC type software from the inside.

Consider also medical software, software for aircraft control systems, software for nuclear power plants. Mission critical software engineering is not an old field, but it is old enough that there are plenty of successful companies out there that can write software that doesn't fail.

The moron in Imperial College who created that atrocity of a pandemic modeling system must have started up this voting software company.

How do you fuck up voting software? It's not an operating system. It should be straightforward. And how does it possibly fail in the field like that?

Smells bad.

[–] Maskancan 1 point -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

lol Cry me a riverrrrrrrrrr

[–] flaxom 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

They'll keep running with this blackbox system, which probably doesn't even count actual votes but instead just spits out numbers people might believe, so long as everyone keeps participating and abiding the results

[–] yaksarefinetoo 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

bidenVotes++;

is pretty hard to fuck up

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