[–] praump 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

They will claim social distancing and mask wearing caused this 🤷‍♂️

[–] DBExactor 3 points -3 points (+0|-3) ago 

That's probably why it happened.

[–] tonberry2 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

What caused it is they were counting all influenza cases as covid-19 cases. If social distancing and mask wearing worked on influenza, nobody would be getting covid either.

[–] CrackerSlant 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Have you reviewed CDC 19-0994 objectively? There is nothing like it for corona but both are considered respiratory viruses.

[–] 26152091? ago  (edited ago)

So it only works for the flu, but not for the covid? Or why are covid cases supposed to rise while flu deaths have disappeared?

[–] praump ago 

I may be a useful idiot but my reality tunnel says it could have something to do with the death rate 👍

[–] Leveraction 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Of course. All flu cases are now listed as "the rise of covid". Poof, all flu cases are gone. How convenient is that.

[–] xpat 3 points -2 points (+1|-3) ago 

They are competing viruses, we have known that since those studies came out approx. late spring. Nothing to do with propaganda. SARS-CoV-2 simply "pushes out" influenza as it is the "stronger" virus. That mechanism has nothing to do with masks either, although mask-wearking obviously limits transmission of both. But the first studies looked at what happened before the wearing of masks.

[–] Rotteuxx 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Got links or study names?

[–] captainstrange 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I think he was being sarcastic.

[–] xpat ago 

The one that comes to mind is a Japanese study looking at the situation in Hokkaido from Jan onwards. Hokkaido, as they get many Chinese tourists. VERY math heavy (literally pages of calcuations), and impossible to understand in-depth unless you have that sort of background - in maths or statistics. (No intention to sound condescending).

It concluded that monitoring Influenza could be used for monitoring of bioweapons attacks. It showed the sudden drop-off of Infl. cases when SARS-CoV-2 appeared on the scene, prior to when it was officially picked up by SARS-CoV-2 testing.

Absolutely fascinating study, probably my most favourite one of all SARS-CoV-2 studies that I've read so far. Unfortunatel very carefully worded, so carefully in fact, that I can't even find it in my history any more. I printed off a copy to work on it, so I have it somewhere, but can't access it right now. To this day I can't believe I even found the thing. Sheer luck. It didn't get much traction - obviously (impossible to find, near-impossible to understand, and a pretty hot iron).

There have been more studies regarding Influenza lately, as the incidence was monitored in the southern hemisphere during their winter. But in any of those studies, the competing aspect of the viruses is obviously skewed by mask-wearing, distancing and shutdowns, which will, by themselves, reduce the incidence of Influenza to practically zero, SARS-CoV-2 or not.

Sorry that I can't be of any more help right now.

[–] It_was_the_juice ago 

Sorry, but there is no evidence that mask wearing slows the spread of any airborne virus. But when whole communities are on lockdown, that'll definitely bring down the cases.

[–] xpat ago 

Inoculum