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[–] toasterleavins 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

you guys absolutely love ignoring basic common logic.

this study is not applicable to the current mask order. there were no studies where in a group of thousands of people, all wore masks. what this study tells you is if in a groupnof thousands 1 wear a surgical mask, all the others and the wearer still get sick.

surgical masks don't protect you. they protect others. only an n95 protects you. so course the wearer gets sick when he's surrounded by non-wearers. this study proves the exact opposite of what you're saying it does. it proves if some people in a group don't wear masks, everyone gets sick.

you cough or sneeze and shit with the virus comes out if your mouth and lands on things. in a mask, most of it gets caught in the mask. less infected shit around you, less chance of getting sick. why is this basic concept hard for you to understand?

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[–] toasterleavins ago 

it is when someone sneezes and you walk through the cloud of mist. There's a low chance of that happening, but a high chance of that happening after several months of people not wearing masks at large gatherings - the grocery store. that's why I wear an n95. mostly because I smoked for 15 years and don't want to risk a douche w/o a mask sneezing on me. I don't care about protecting others - I wear it for myself.

most of the problems from not wearing a Surgical mask come from you leaving pieces of your inner liquids on things people touch, and them touching their face afterwards.

What I find funny is people who read something that says "wet", and go - "here you go, proof it's dry." you have the iq of a nigger.

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[–] ketoll [S] ago  (edited ago)

Ok, so for starters I see maybe 1% wearing actual N95 anyway. 99% of people are wearing a sewn cloth that wouldn't even stifle the smell of a fart. Coronavirus particles are .125 - .2 microns at the largest. N95 when properly worn and sealed across the face can only protect up to .3 microns. Not to mention it's hard to breathe.

The hysteria that's happening right now is that people wearing a piece of cotton cloth are believing that they're stopping this virus from spreading. Perhaps if you sneeze or cough or spit your words then yes, it will stop those saliva molecules from projecting at others, but it does nothing for breathing and talking, which the virus goes right through the cloth fibers with the air. Besides, if I'm going to sneeze or cough I'll do it into my elbow because I'm not a savage. That's just courtesy with or without a cold.

If this were about stopping the virus we would be looking into Hydroxychloroquine treatment and allowing herd immunity. This virus isn't going to just disappear and we can't just lock down the entire damn world. If anything, more doctors are murdering patients with ventilators than if they would simply provide HCQ, Z-Pak, Zinc, Quercetine. Hell even cheap hydrogen peroxide nebulizers kill the virus. Oxygen therapy (not ventilators) The truth is the medical industry is suppressing the true cure and is endorsing things that don't work (masks) and things that have a high mortality rate anyway (ventilators).

The population is dumb as a rock because they are ill informed and most think masks are a magic holy grail.

Mask mandates are providing a false sense of security to a public that is already coming into contact with spread of germs even when wearing them. They don't block coronavirus molecules. They are a personal medical decision, not everyone else's decision to impose on you. Finally, they recommend sick people wear them. Healthy people throughout society should not be treated as sick people until proven healthy, and if you're so paranoid that everyone is potentially sick then you should just stay home at that point because masks won't save you.

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[–] toasterleavins 1 point -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

The paper sited here literally shows those cloth masks only work if everyone wears them. The population that's dumb as a rock is you. A virus is sub-micron. That virus dies upon hitting air. You don't need a mask to defend against it. It also doesn't come magically shooting out of your face. It comes out in droplets of oil and water, which are 50 microns in size. The mask, even a cloth mask, catches those on their way out, preventing you from spreading the virus.

The masks would be a holy grail if literally everyone wears them. It's like vaccines. They can be 60% effective, but if everyone has a vaccine no one gets sick.

People are already on oxygen therapy. Z-Pak is an antibiotic - do you know the difference between a virus and bacteria? Of course you don't. The other two you mention literally don't do anything. At all. To kill the virus with peroxide, you would have to inhale peroxide fumes. That would cause more inflamation than the virus. People are killed by ventilators you say? You know what kills you more? Not breathing. People are sedated and put on a ventilator when they literally cannot breathe anymore - they would literally die from lack of oxygen in an hour if there was no ventilator - because they cannot inhale air.

Dumb as a rock is correct as fuck - you're right about that.

the mask mandates reduce transmission from the infected to everyone else. Coronavirus doesn't travel in "molecules" - water is a molecule. A virus is hundreds of thousands of molecules. The virus globs that come out of your mouth are literally the size you can feel. couch or sneeze on your hand, then wipe it on your face. Fell something? That's how the virus comes out. Now do that in a cloth mask. Fell something? No, because your mouth-goo is in the mask.

I'm against mask enforcement because the government doesn't have the authority to mandate that. It's also up to the individual to protect himself, not the responsibility of the world around him to give him a safe space.

But you calling the population dumb and ill-informed. That's quite rich.

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[–] xenoPsychologist ago 

any representation of scientists handling known deadly viri ive ever seen theyve all been wearing n95 masks full hazmat suits with their own oxygen supply. man, they must really feel stupid overcompensating like that.

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[–] toasterleavins ago 

That's because you get your information from movies and have never worked in a hospital.

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[–] reason247 ago 

No one. Cares... It's a fashion statement now.

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[–] iDontShift ago 

limited proof it helps stop spread of flu.

bitches you can't even prove the flu spreads at all.

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[–] Nukeisrael ago 

MUHHHH MASKSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

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[–] StBlops2cel_is_Lord 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

That's NOT THE POINT, you obese tranny

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