I prefer not to dissect 1 point
Then how can you ever know if that point is really true?
Look, we can talk about this for as long as you like. When either one of us is done, we just stop replying. But it seems to me that dissecting one point is a lot more profitable than if either of us go back and forth saying "well what about this" and then linking to videos or whatever that address that thing, and then just immediately moving on to another "well what about this"
So, here's the thing: the flat earth model that we're currently talking about specifies that the sun is some distance above the flat plain of the earth, and is visible on the earth to anyone within a certain radius of it. So, it's like a spotlight circle, like this: https://files.catbox.moe/jju3j4.png
I don't know the radius of the circle, so I'm prepared to make it as large or as small as is needed to fit any observations we make. The point is, the globe earth model predicts that 1/2 of the Earth is facing the sun all the time. They map that only a mercator projection map and it looks like this: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/sunearth.html
I can't find where they map it onto a flat earth model where Antarctica is at the periphery, and I don't have the skill to do that myself. But it seems really obvious to me that these two methods cannot possibly produce the exact same shape of light/dark. What that means is, no matter how large you make the circle, it's never going to exactly "fit" the day/night prediction of the globe earth model.
...and what that means is, we just have to find a place on Earth where one model predicts day and the other model predicts night, find someone you trust who lives there, give him a call, and ask him if it's daytime or night time.
So let's say the flat earth model predicts it should be nighttime where your friend lives. You call him up and he says it's actually day time. Okay no problem, just enlarge the circle until it's daytime where he lives. I further predict that you're going to have to make the circle quite large, and that it will therefore predict daytime for people that the globe earth model predicts are still in nighttime. So, we call one up a second person and ask him if it's day or night.
At some point, one of these models will break down.
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If I want to prove something and there are 20 points to consider, I don't want to just talk about one point.
For that one point might be weak, thereby making the whole argument weak. And likewise, might be strong, covering up for other weaker points.
Don't confuse talking about a variety of points with moving the goal posts. And you don't decide that point(s), we do.
Feel free not to take part.
The thing you are skipping with the flat earth model is that we don't know where the sun really is. Many now feel we are seeing a reflection
of the sun and that it really exists outside the firmament. This is the most difficult part of the flat Earth hypotheses imo.
Re the radius of the circle, note, the radius of the Earth was determined by around the time they were guessing the distance of the sun and
around the time they were using Venus passing in front of it to do so. If the radius of the Earth is what they say it is, then we should NOT
be seeing as far as we do (with high powered cameras and telescopes.)
Many (old) flat Earth maps show Antartica on the periphery and further they show more lands beyond that periphery. Which interestingly
enough is what Admiral Byrd said in his interview on TV. (Not to mention the vast coal reserves that would solve our energy problems.)
https://youtu.be/SESP28tvK2w
Re your "calling your friend and seeing if it is light there" type of thinking. I like that and it has been done. I know Globebusters were
talking about this very thing and getting into the details. I just forget the episode. Was in the last 4 months or so.
Related and more accessible now, is the falsified video coming from Antartica. They show constant light, but by looking at the shadows
of the objects in the film, you can see they looped the video and cut out a huge part. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Mdg5k-WBFw
At some point, from long distance photography, to ISS green/blue screen mistakes, to the Antartica lies, the Globe Model breaks down.