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[–] ScientiaPotentia ago 

This needs to include the rest of California except San Fran and LA.

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[–] ScientiaPotentia ago 

Check out Propertarianism. It's a movement for scientific governance with a goal to separate all Democrat areas into City States and let the rest of America be free.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIGlVALFPYRROlXk511Cfhw

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[–] LambOfLiberty ago 

I’ve been a part of it for a while, gathered signatures, manned booths, sat in on city/town council meetings. It was big a few years ago, and they kept it grass roots without a central leader or funding stream. That kind of weakened the movement I think. Plus you had a lot of republicans that couldn’t think outside their own boxes (ie: old lady saying we’ll make gays illegal during a SOJ meeting), you will have to somehow get the democrats here up north to actually be on board. Also there’s just so much ignorance amongst the regular people. Most people hate the name and symbol but don’t realize that if we became our own state we’d get to vote on a new flag and name. Most of us want something along the lines of Northern California.

Anyhoo this turned into a rant, I still talk to people about our terrible representation in Sacramento as often as I can.