[–] suave200 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago (edited ago)
Just another anti Q hit piece. They play all angles. To me God works thru people in many ways. Q is one way he is working thru us. Sometimes God will even work through those that mean to do evil, to bring about good. I do believe many or most of our churches have fallen or preach a different gospel than that given to us by God (mormons, Jehovah witnesses, unitarians, and a shitload of others, usually out themselves by denying the diety of Christ).
This hit piece is a perfect example of what the faux christian churches do as they spread lies.
[–] 4TheRepublic 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else.
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Isaiah 45:6-7 KJV
Accuses Qanon of intentionally distracting attention away from actual pedophile and human trafficking activity, then intentionally distracts from actual pedophile and human trafficking activity.
Accuses Qanon of slander, then slanders Qanon.
We’ve seen this so many times it’s like a Humira commercial droning in the background.
The article is logically flawed.
Initial charges are QAnon is a "threat to the global church"
Global church? Churches are local, a community of people called together for a purpose. There is one Lord of all. All other structures (global church?) are structures designed and created by man. I looked through the article for examples on how QAnon is threatening the church - to build the case with examples of infiltration, attacks, corruptions, threats, etc.
Nothing.
The author then states that the QAnon movement is connected to the "1980's-era Satanic ritual abuse panic". But the only similarity given is the core belief that there are some very evil and powerful entities that work together for evil purposes. (Don't Christians teach this belief also?) Where are the "connection" examples of QAnon and SRA?
Nothing.
The conclusion then is that QAnon is "a satanic movement infiltrating our churches."
(Whose church?)
As a concluding point of emphasis, the author drives the point home by stating that members of QAnon frequently engage in slander and lies. There are readily available examples of slander and lies expressed by members of pretty much any large organization of people - churches, political parties, movements, etc. I prefer to observe how such organizations self-police their own. Therein I see large differences in their integrity.
His conclusion: the church has to attack QAnon now. Attack? Attack people?
I believe the logic to reach this conclusion does not exist anywhere in the article.
The choice weapon of offense (attack): The Sword of Truth.
[–] TRFBYTrC0mmies 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
The gospel coalition is a bunch of far left, sjw’s that cloak their activism in gospel and Christianity. Fuck those liars.
‘The problem is, The Gospel Coalition isn’t really about the gospel — it’s about other things, like social justice, egalitarianism, LGBTQ activism, open borders and mass illegal immigration, theological liberalism, self-advancement, etc. The Gospel Coalition merely cloaks these causes in Christian-themed language, slaps the phrase “gospel-centered” on it, and brings aboard anyone who is willing to advance their cause.’
https://reformationcharlotte.org/2019/08/07/time-to-kiss-the-gospel-coalition-goodbye/
[–] smikey159 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
I'm not entirely sure what the actual correlation is. I could understand linking Q to idolatry, given the vagueness of drops, vagueness of prophecy in a historical context, and tendency of followers to accept prediction as gospel truth... but the article doesn't exactly do that. It mentions a linking to the SRA panic of the 80s today, but that's about it.
A more reasonable "attack" from a gospel standpoint would be a warning to believers, reminding them that the Antichrist will deceive many and be welcomed by the world. Other things to look out for would be "peace" in the Holy Land (a peace agreement for 7 years that'll be broken after about 3.5), the setting up of a church on/near Temple Mount, a global currency, a global church/religion, and probably some other things I'm forgetting. The fact that Q mentions the whole armor of God and that we should be praying is moot; I believe scripture makes a pretty strong argument that in the end times evil will be masquerading under a banner of righteousness. I also urge my brethren in Christ to remember that the end times are going to suck pretty bad - that evil's impersonation of religious dogma will be so good that it'll be capable of convincing everyone outside of true Divine intervention, and that the incoming purge of Christ's followers will be so effective it'll completely wipe out godliness without (again) Divine intervention.
The only thing that truly bothers me about Q is the (para)phrase "saving Israel for last". Scripture clearly states not to fuck with Israel/God's chosen people. Jesus was jewish as far as I know, and though the Pharisees (also jews) condemned Him to death, this death is what allows non-jews (Gentiles, or as voat likes to say, "goys") to be part of God's Kingdom; if I recall correctly, Scripture states 144k jews in Heaven/New Earth - 12k from each of the 12 tribes (and only 12 tribes) - but an uncountable multitude of people from Christ's salvation. This is not to say that the jews are blameless, perfect, or unable to do wrong. They're people, and like all people, capable of being corrupted and doing great evil. The question, from me, therefore is does "saving Israel for last" mean the ousting/cleaning house of bad actors, attacking the country directly, renouncing alliances with the country, or "reforming" the nation into a particular ethno-state? A question for both sides of the argument would be, define "Israel" - is it the government or the people? If its the people, is it those who currently live there, those who historically have lived there, or those who are descendants of the biblically-defined state?
Personally, I see a lot of good things Q could be doing, and I generally support them. However, just as the political Left pushes people to sacrifice liberty for security & "equality", I view the political Right (Q included) through the lens of one day possibly pushing people to sacrifice eternity for justice & prosperity - the viewpoints on both sides are capable of doing good, however there reaches a point where the cost of human intervention outweighs its benefits. How this all ends only the Almighty truly knows. In the meantime, I do my best to pray for others, my enemies, and myself; pray for forgiveness where I stumble, and be thankful for whatever happens in life.
[–] moderator99 ago
The problem I have with Christianity (and every other religion) is that it discourages logical thinking or accepting anything that isn't filtered through its archaic and outdated belief system. These people are not deep thinkers. Conspiracy theories are not their forte. It's easy to make conspiracy theorists appear to them to be working for the Devil.
[–] Scrolleater [S] ago
So tell me, what’s logical about Q? Or eating ice cream or wishing your mom was still alive.
[–] moderator99 ago
Why do you pick those? You could just as easily ask what's logical about you. Stupid questions. Poorly formed.
[–] RighteousWeed ago
LMAO... why is the gospel coalition truly against Q?.... don't be an idiot. look back to 2007, Kim Clement prophesies, again in 2014... God is FOR TRUMP... so ANY "CHURCH" NOT on Q's side, are probably not on Gods' side either.
[–] suave200 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
I take interest i prophecy like with Kim Clement, but I take great caution as many come to deceive in the last days. Having been indoctrinated into mormonism from birth until my mid 30's I trusted Joseph Smith and the mormon prophets, until I thought for myself and studied it out and found that it was total BS. So be careful and pray for discernment in cases like Kim Clement and Mark Taylor.