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[–] 23539196? ago 

Well, that's handy. What I just wrote disappeared when I tried looking at the context. Shitfuk. You want a simple answer to a huge social and medical crisis. I'm baffled by the calculus, and so too are elected and medical people, it would seem. I'm socially trained to believe people with certain credentials, many doctors for example. And completely distrust other people. Pols might fall into the not trust box. Doctors try to lose no one, and that can be a mistake. Politicians try not to lose their friends, and keep an eye toward whether or not it's going to be possible to lie one's way out if the situation goes bad. In my great state, I have never heard a governor campaign overtly on deciding who will live and who will die. I suspect that part of the depth of the problem becomes what happens with the fallout from being wrong. What does a family do when the wage-earner comes home sick? Then the kids or wife gets sick. And now no bills are being paid. Is there a just social remedy? What is the legal remedy for someone who is willing to work, who goes to work, and who is infected by someone who should not have been there? - The money isn't there whether we print it or not. The last great experiment in bailout when banks created imaginary money was just more debt for a government that has been behind since the late sixties.

So, how many people dying v losing positions? 18 and 75. But I guess we have gone beyond that, haven't we.

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[–] 23541901? 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

You're willing to sacrifice the general good of 365,000,000 to save the lives of 18 people. That's about .00000005% of the population. That's not rational thinking.

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[–] 23545685? ago 

My point is that it's not, never was, an argument about numbers. It's about life and lives. A tricky idea. Religion and philosophy struggle with this. Not sure how to get it right. Or even how to test for right. Bio prof I had in school used to say to us, cynical freshmen and sophomores, when you think a life isn't worth living, why not ask some of those people who have genetic deficit or horrible disease, what do they want. I suspect this isn't a bad way to go about it. I'm cynical of the whole calculus of lives and jobs b/c I'm not persuaded that the jobs are coming back. I know that the lives lost aren't.

And, so as my friend once said to me: You take my money, well I suppose I can earn some more. Take my house? Well, that would be a bit more difficult to replace, but I suppose I could do it. Take my wife? There are other fish in the sea. But, waste my time?

Regards