[–] amonamoose 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Skip the .22 and instead get an AR pattern rifle chambered in a pistol caliber round like .45 or 9mm. Best of both worlds. Cheaper ammo costs but still effective as a personal or home defense weapon.
[–] WORF_MOTORBOATS_TROI 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
How can this be California Compliant when it looks so scary?
[–] Pacawac 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
I bought my wife one to plink in the back yard. I shoot it tons. It is a bitch to load. I bought a loader. Never had one issue or misfire. A friend has one he's had for a while. Neither is CA compliant. But 12 to 15k rounds between the 2. Never had a misfire.
[–] KILLtheRATS 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago (edited ago)
Put one of those bang bang triggers and tune it, you can dump a mag in seconds
[–] MisterGrieves 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
If you are going .22 you might as well get the Ruger 10/22. Save getting an AR for when you are getting an actual AR.
[–] Liberameya 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Something tells me you shoot a cracked our dindu with a .22 and all you’ll do is make him mad
[–] ManchesterT 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Build your own, both rifle and ammo.
You say you're in California. DON'T end up on a list.
[–] Nosferatjew 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago (edited ago)
It feels cheap, and the mags are a bitch to load, but it shoots well enough. Personally I prefer a 1022, but I get the appeal of the the MP 15 22 for an inexpensive training rig. It's all polymer, and feels like it, but it's still a fun shooter. I would never count on it, or any 22, for home defense though.
If you want a rifle that's cheap to feed and can be used for home defense, maybe consider the Ruger PC Carbine.
[–] modsrcuntz [S] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Thanks dude you made some excellent points. I was literally just looking at the ruger 10 minutes ago. I really like it. Man it's crazy how ammo is sold out everywhere I look.
[–] Nosferatjew 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago (edited ago)
The other nice thing about the Ruger PCC is 9mm is one of the easiest and least expensive rounds to reload. You can even cast your own lead bullets and not have to worry about jacketing them. And the casings, because they're not necked down like a rifle casing such as 5.56, can be reloaded almost endlessly.
I've been eyeing it since it came out. I was hoping they'd release a 10mm and/or a 45acp version, but so far, no dice. I might just have to get the 9mm version in the mean time.
Edit: btw I have shot one, I'm not trying to recommend a gun I have no trigger time with. It shoots really well, and is pretty comfortable.
[–] KILLtheRATS ago
The hi point carbine is cheaper and just as reliable
[–] Nosferatjew ago
You get what you pay for.