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[–] TurquoiseLover 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

democrats created medicare which is already a piece of high-priced bankrupt crap. You pay for it your whole working life and then discover that it has huge premiums when you retire (and most doctors won't take it).

Oh and now they are trying to blame Trump for their f'd up obamacare that trashed everything.

democrats love paying $450 a month for their premium with a $7,200 deductible not the brightest bunch. Plus, obama stole a trillion from medicare to pay for barrycare.

They all seem to think it's free.

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[–] quantum1234 ago 

Why let big biz off the hook and shift the payment to the middle class....because the Dims are all in their pockets....NO thank you to socialized medicine....look at wait times in Canada, UK and elsewhere...people have to wait for treatment especially for MRI's, Cataracts, hernia surgeries...etc

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[–] WhyAserverWasBuilt 1 point -1 points (+0|-1) ago  (edited ago)

That sounds more like the for profit system we have now. I have been involved in studies. Against every plan every other country has Medicare is the most efficient and does cost less. Much of it has to do with the billing procedures alone.... Not the care.

The fake news and rhetoric has gone on for way too long. One thing the study showed is that our country should have done this in the 50s or no later than the 70's due to the size now of the country. The country is too big now to dump everyone into a program on any said date.

The only way is to let everyone keep the insurance they have if they like it. That is what Australia did in 1984. While they still have private plans that you can buy, they do see those dwindling as they learn about the ongoing care others have as well.

I have a family member who left the country and went where they have National Healthcare. She has a lot of money so of course bought everything you could buy privately for herself, including riders for anything not covered in full.

She became ill. She had to have ongoing treatment. What she found is every day she saw the same doctors at the same facilities and received the same care as the people in the waiting room sitting with her who had the national program. She is fine now but she did cancel her private insurance now that she knows how it all works.

Another thing I learned in the study, is that no one really knew how good their insurance was privately, until they had to use it.

I remember when Trump was debating Hillary and was asked about health care and what he would like to see. He replied "I like Australia's plan." I did not know what that was and I expected the moderator to ask Trump to clarify. She did not and went right to Hillary. I ran to my desktop to look up Australia's program to see what he liked as the moderator dropped it like a hot potato!

Australia instituted medicare-for-all in 1984 while allowing everyone to keep their private plan. Through the years while people learn and use those private insurance plans, they do see the private plans dwindling away...

And so it goes. It's also weird he's never said a word about it since. I heard it and looked it up myself. Hmmmmm....now flame away!

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[–] TurquoiseLover ago  (edited ago)

How about we get rid of fooched up leftist insurance and the greasy leftist paws in the middle of our former health care.