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[–] argosciv 2 points 11 points (+13|-2) ago  (edited ago)

For the record, the game is rated M(Mature audiences aged 17+) on the ESRB site for:

  • Blood
  • Crude Humor
  • Drug Reference
  • Strong Language
  • Violence

To some extent, the parent making the complaint could have found the ESRB rating information if they cared that much, but I digress...

However, this information is not present on the steam page. (Search: "Goat Simulator Steam Page")

Moreover, Googleplay rates the phone app as PG. (Search: "Goat Simulator Phone App")

The underlying point here being that distribution platforms for the game are deceptive/conflicting about the game's content.

Noteworthy from the wikipedia page:

Goat Simulator as well as 2013's Surgeon Simulator are often considered the first examples of "YouTube bait" games, purposely designed to appeal to an audience watching the game being played but lacking any redeeming gameplay values.[66]

(Formatting and deliberately dud link added for emphasis, see below)

At Microsoft's presentation at the 2014 Gamescom convention in August, Goat Simulator was announced as one of several titles to be coming to the Xbox One platform with the help of Double Eleven studios,[42] and later confirmed to be also arriving for the Xbox 360, with both versions released on 17 April 2015.[43][44][45] Koch Media also distributed a retail version of the Xbox One version, including all additional downloadable content, across Europe for release on 4 March 2016.[46] Coffee Stain Studios also released ports for iOS and Android in September 2014.[42][47][48] PlayStation 3 and PlayStation 4 versions, also ported by Double Eleven, were released on 11 August 2015.[49][50]

This is particularly noteworthy for a few reasons:

  • Firstly take a look at Double Eleven Studios' logo – under less suspicious circumstances, I'd shrug this off as no big deal, but reading the history/founding/recent activity of Double Eleven Studios gives at least myself reason to distrust their intention.

  • More importantly though, there's a very particular reason why Double Eleven's involvement in the XBox releases of Goat Simulator is suspicious:

Video showing one way (arguably the easiest) to complete the 'ritual' to become a Devil Goat on the PC version of the game

Video explained:

You first find your way to the Goat Throne, to obtain a special power which allows you to summon up to 7 (or possibly more) Goat Ragdolls at a time. Then you head out to the ritual site, which is just up a short path nearby to a house which represents the game developers' HQ with signage reading "Coffee Stain Studios", and then use your newly gained summoning power to appease the ritual using summoned goats (no humans required).

 

While reading through the comments to this video, I discovered many people saying that they can only summon 4 Goat Ragdolls. As it turns out, someone replied to one of these complaints by informing them that the summoning ability was changed for the XBox releases to only summon up to 4 Goat Ragdolls, thus creating a requirement for the sacrifice of at least one human.

 

Therefore, the element of human sacrifice was not originally a requirement of the 'ritual' (though it appears that the Goat Ragdolls and human subjects are interchangeable on all platforms), but was actually introduced as an unavoidable requirement for the XBox versions (published by Double Eleven Studios) and likely the subsequent, inexplicably PG-rated mobile app versions (which were published by the original developers, Coffee Stain Studios).

All in all, I'd go ahead and agree that this game, like Outer Wilds, reeks of industry manipulation (potentially even serving to help launder money) and attempts to, on some level or another, mess with people through questionable content.

On the grounds of industry manipulation, there are many notable tangents worth digging into via the wiki pages for Goat Simulator, Coffee Stain Studios and Double Eleven Studios, but I'll leave that part up to those interested for now. Follow the money as they say (and corporate hierarchy/history).


@Vindicator

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[–] Vindicator 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Thanks for the added info. They are deliberately pushing this.

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[–] argosciv 1 point 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Thanks for the added info. They are deliberately pushing this.

Y'welcome. Normally I wouldn't pay much mind to something like this in such a garbage game, but the discrepancy between PC version and XBox (+ others?) versions, namely the introduced unavoidable requirement, is particularly "wtf?". Given especially that console and mobile app releases are far more likely to fall into the hands of those under the ESRB age recommendation of 17.

@kestrel9

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[–] kestrel9 [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

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[–] MilitaryTribunals ago 

The coffee stain looks like a skull

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[–] argosciv 3 points -2 points (+1|-3) ago 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goat_Simulator#Notes

Ported to consoles by Double Eleven and Lucid Games; ported to OS X and Linux by icculus.org; GoatZ and Waste of Space downloadable content by Gone North Games

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucid_Games

Most of Lucid Games' ten founders were previously employed by Bizarre Creations, which was shut down by Activision, its parent company, seven days prior to the announcement, on 18 February 2011.[3] The founding team also included Pete Wallace, the former senior manager of Bizarre Creations, Andy Davidson and media entrepreneur Paul Morrissey.,[4][5][6] According to Wallace, Lucid Games wanted to return to the roots of Bizarre Creations, and again develop itself to the point when Activision acquired it.[7]

See games table.

Last project prior to their involvement with Goat Simulator:

  • Geometry Wars 3: Dimensions, 2014, published by Activision even though Activision shut down Bizarre Creations ~3 - 4 years prior.

Involvement with Goat simulator (2015):

  • Involved, together with Double Eleven Studios, in porting the game to consoles PlayStation 3, PlayStation 4, Xbox 360 and Xbox One

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[–] SuggarRay 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I knew it from the start. Why should one create such a game. Voila there is the answer

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[–] StankMouth 1 point 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

That shits wild, that logo tells you everything though. Thanks for taking the time to post all of that.

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[–] argosciv 3 points -1 points (+2|-3) ago 

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[–] derram 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

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[–] BillyBobBoJangles 2 points 7 points (+9|-2) ago  (edited ago)

That's not the whole point of the game lol. It's a sandbox game, you can do whatever you want. Just like in real life, you can choose not to summon Satan. It was never an innocent silly game. It's rated 17+ for a reason.

Rating Summary

This is a simulation game in which players cause as much damage as possible with a goat in an open-world environment. Players earn points by using the goat's abilities (e.g., ramming, jumping, running) to destroy objects and complete challenges/stunts. Several stunts depict acts of violence: characters getting hit by vehicles; players shooting people with baseballs, destroying a gas station, pushing humans off cranes. A handful of challenges involve knocking other goats out of a large blood-stained fighting circle. During the course of the game, players can engage in a text-based mini-game (i.e., “Drug Wars”) that involves the fictional buying and selling of drugs (e.g., crack, heroin, opium). The game also includes instances of crude humor (e.g., characters holding signs that read “No penis shaped foods.”). The words “f*k” and “sht” appear in the dialogue.

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[–] KillerKap 1 point -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

nothing to see her goyim. fuck off you athiest cunt

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[–] BillyBobBoJangles ago 

lol

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[–] kestrel9 [S] ago 

It's true the father didn't see the other activities as being a problem (for a 6 year old to play) as he played the game with his son for a few days. (I doubt he saw the drug selling parts of the game). The game is a parody of other games/movie scenes and has a lot of humor added in it seems, so for a parent who is used to more serious (violent) games, it may not have seemed like a big deal.

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[–] RussianGoyBot ago 

Ratings are just someone telling me what I can show my kids.

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[–] BitChuteArchive 1 point -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

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[–] privacy_first 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The game https://allxbox.games/games/misc/goat-simulator-13917/details

is made by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Eleven_(company)

Now, is there a way to know if the owners are Jew ?

Just curious....

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[–] kestrel9 [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

It's made by https://www.coffeestainstudios.com/games/ Double Eleven is helping them with Xbox platform.

EDIT: Coffee Stain is part of the Embracer Group https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embracer_Group

@argosciv

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[–] argosciv 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago 

Just now seeing this comment (guessing you forgot to ping without the edit lol).

Yep, already looked into the swedish end of things as much as I had the energy to for now (bed soon). Bit of a dead end there for me thus far. As previously mentioned though, the Activision angle keeps suspicion in the air.

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[–] privacy_first 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

From https://www.coffeestainstudios.com/games/

"©2020 Coffee Stain Studios AB • All rights reserved • Coffee Stain is part of the Embracer Group"

Embracer group is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embracer_Group

And I still wonder if they are Jew...

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[–] Shillaxe 1 point 1 point (+2|-1) ago 

"Koch media distributed the retail version."

Koch = Jewish

For the record Im no fan of religion, Jewish or otherwise.