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[–] slowcrash101 ago  (edited ago)

The thing is, when you as a man, become strong and independent women start becoming attracted to you. It is simple biology, women go along to get along. Men like to fight and conquer, to compete, to figure out things to master nature. Women see a man doing just that and they fucking swoon.

Nothing moistens a women's panties like a man who can get shit done and doesn't take shit from anyone.

Narcissists and sociopaths do very well with women because they have confidence and self assurance or at least project that facade well. That is attractive to women in the short term.

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[–] tinfoil_hats 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

maybe for the younger MGTOW's. I have some sympathy for older guys who got screwed over by divorce and the (((courts))), but the younger ones who don't even try and opt to end their genetic line seem pretty similar to the crazy cat lady feminists. except feminists actually managed to change society (for the worse, for the most part), but MGTOW's just "go their own way" and haven't managed to bring about any productive changes (that I've seen so far), so in a way they're even more useless pussies than feminists.

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[–] vonclausewitz ago 

Be a strong, independent (person) and don't let the opposite sex and the institution dictate your life choices.

Wait. Hold on. Are you implying that men should let the opposite sex dictate their life choices??

Is that you're advice to young men?? Because I don't think that advice will work to get women attracted to you. All the red-pill TRP types advise that as a man, you should have your own mission. Women will come to you when they see that you're a winner.

That advice does not work for women because men don't give a shit if a woman is a "winner" - we value them for their youth and fertility. That's why it's so dumb when feminism tells women:

Be a strong, independent (person) and don't let the opposite sex and the institution dictate your life choices.

But when TRP (and other manosphere ideologies) tell men:

Be a strong, independent (person) and don't let the opposite sex and the institution dictate your life choices.

That is good advice.

...and yet for some reason, you hold this up as a negative. I think you lost the narrative there.

feminism and MGOTW reduces the number of white families

I disagree. I believe there more than enough marriage-worthy men available for the current population of marriage-worthy women. I think that there are very few marriage-worthy women and I think that every. single. last. one of them is able to successfully find a man, marry, and have a white family.

When you look at populations of women complaining (many examples here: /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen/) what do you see? You see women who squandered their youth and their fertility; women who never bothered to develop domestic skills that would be useful to a family; women who never even tried to have a family - What do you not see? You don't see women around 20 years old saving themselves for marriage and desiring a man with family values. Those women exist, but they get married easily.

You will not increase the number of white families by fighting MGTOW. You are wasting your time. There is already a surplus of men. We don't need more marriage-minded men. If you want to help, you need to convince young women to stop being degenerate.

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[–] BoomerHater1488er 1 point -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Lmfao congratulations on being the last link in a family that stretches back to the dawn of time. Imagine some of the shit your ancestors had to overcome...and you're giving up because a woman might be mean to you.

Ah, well, maybe it's for the best. Quality women are where they've always been: with quality men. That will never change. What do I care if you take your ball and go home?

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[–] vonclausewitz ago 

You didn't actually respond to anything I said. I suspect you're unable to.

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[–] ALIENS2222 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

It's all just bullshit so Whites won't breed.

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[–] Niceballsnigga ago 

Not even the same country, much less ballpark.

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[–] 19810708321b ago 

Think for yourself, educate yourself about consequences, make rational decisions about relationship, and love a single women who wants to be loyal, monogamous, and provide and be mothers to their children without being selfish. Stay away from goldiggers too.

That is MGTOW. It's a temporary educational stage, where as Feminism is enslavement for a lifetime.

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[–] edgydude69 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

I mean, thatd make sense if most mgtow weren’t already dad’s.

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[–] PaulNeriAustralia 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

MGTOW's are men who have thrown off enslavement!

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[–] goatboy 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

...by removing themselves from the gene pool.

Nah dude. If they were really fighting the slavers, then they’d: consolidate into a unified political system, fund a superpac, found an exclusive men’s-only organization, form a irl community that only allows like minded men in and subsidized other MGTOW to join them, etc.

Instead, they squander their time and power in vain pleasure seeking.

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[–] BoomerHater1488er 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

In another 25 years, I can't wait to see the enormous spike in suicide when all these incels realize it's now too late for them to have a family and that it would have been better to have a crappy family than no family lmfao.

Ah, well. I wound up with two daughters and no sons. Every MGTOW is one less shit tier family I have to worry about one of my daughters marrying into...

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[–] PaulNeriAustralia ago 

Agree - the key to change is political power and that involves organisation and money and most of us, including me, prefer to sit at the computer ranting and raving.

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