[–] 19810708321b ago
Think for yourself, educate yourself about consequences, make rational decisions about relationship, and love a single women who wants to be loyal, monogamous, and provide and be mothers to their children without being selfish. Stay away from goldiggers too.
That is MGTOW. It's a temporary educational stage, where as Feminism is enslavement for a lifetime.
[–] High_Sierra_Trail 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
You must be lonely, what with being such a significant dipshit.
[–] capnflummox 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
4.6 year account that doesn't post much suddenly has an opinion...
[–] toobaditworks 1 point 1 point 2 points (+2|-1) ago
If you're new here and MGTOW please visit: https://voat.co/v/TraditionalWives
[–] SJWs_R_FAAAGS 1 point 0 points 1 point (+1|-1) ago
Lol, but that will go against their narrative
[–] d1a 3 points -1 points 2 points (+2|-3) ago (edited ago)
MGTOW retards sound like such little faggots. Yeah women are fucked, of course they are. They are having anti-men, anti-family, pro-whore, pro-degeneracy propaganda constantly shoved down their throats. Women are degenerates by nature, even the most intelligent women are utterly incapable of ever making good decisions for themselves and society as a whole. When they aren't controlled by men they destroy themselves and everything around them. If you allow a woman to take your kids away, take half your shit and ruin your life, literally piss in your face, she never respected you in the first place. You are weak and women are designed by nature to sniff out weakness and punish men for it. You deserved it. You fell for the same brainwashing she did. She is trying to emulate a man and you accepted her miserable attempt at it, accepted her as the dominant unit and turned yourself into a woman.
My wife knows very well what would happen if she fucked me over. I know what women are and I deal with them accordingly. You expect them to behave in a certain way not realizing that they basically have no will of their own and are extremely easy to manipulate. You are too weak to be considered men of any worth, you might as well be a fucking social studies lesbian retard with your value system and crybaby excuses. You must mold women into what you want them to be, not expect them to be a finished product and act in a desirable way right as you meet them. Women get their values from men. There are no bad dogs, only bad dog owners. You don't know how to deal with women.
You're 40-50 years old have gone through divorce and you still don't understand shit. And you unironically call yourself redpilled while contributing to the destruction of your nations as much as jews, niggers or marxist SJWs. Instead of realizing that there is a problem which only white men can fix and start from there, you whine about the situation being hard instead because you're incapable of dealing with problems. "Whaaaaaa laws favor women and also they are evil conniving whores that will ruin you if given the chance" Woooooowwwww you are such a smart little fella!!! Did you figure that one out on your own??? Now what are you gonna do about it big boy? A bunch of fucking cucks is what you are.
[–] capnflummox 1 point 2 points 3 points (+3|-1) ago
This fucking guy. Makes 'safe choices' then has to threaten his 'woman' to comply.
[–] edgydude69 1 point 0 points 1 point (+1|-1) ago
I mean, thatd make sense if most mgtow weren’t already dad’s.
[–] Obrez 1 point 2 points 3 points (+3|-1) ago (edited ago)
I never understood how right wingers could be mad at MRAs I get it "more white babies" I agree we need more whites but marrying yourself to a dumpster fire that will divorce you at the drop of a hat and ruin your children like we see all around us every day all day, is a terrible idea, there aren't enough good women to go around today so we need to scare the next generation of girls into abandoning feminism by refusing to associate with the women who fuel the coal fire that is burning our civilization. You could logically say that will leave us with a lost generation of men and women but I say we use the left's tactics against itself, they want to push degeneracy by lowering the age of consent and we want obedient women whose place is in the home, we should be pushing an age gap so that right-wing men establish themselves and marry the youngest girls they are legally able to, the goal being to mimic the control our ancestors had over their women by not giving them this time destroy their purity and become poison to their people, it's a successful strategy in Islam and other conquest cultures.
Not every mgtow is trying to achieve this but most could be led to this position, yes there are degenerate mgtow, who avoid all Western women like the plague and will settle for Asians who treat them well, the problem anyone on the right should have isn't with mgtow, mgtow is a symptom of a cancer in our society and that cancer is women's liberation.
Instead of flinging turds at the various men's movements you should be nurturing and guiding them because they were the road most of us traveled to get here and can guide many more.
I'll outline how the elements of what was once called the manosphere guided me and how in turn we should be nurturing them towards our shared end goals.
In high school I did one of the very first no fap challenges on 4chan, in small part to see if I could do it but in part because I wanted the rumored/speculated testosterone boost and primarily the top shelf orgasm at the other end, this challenge was promoted on image boards along side many guides for the extremely lustful interests of young men to master or at least learn the arts of seduction so I dedicated much time to studying and practicing pick up artistry, from a fatherless home myself I had no guidance about women most boys growing up today won't have a man to guide them in their relationships, they need guidance and PUAs mostly care about pussy, not society. From here I found a community birthed by the intersection of the mass of men abstaining masterbation finding newfound motivation to pursue carnal pursuits with desperate efficiency and discovering the state of women it has evolved into a social theory that continually proves itself and bases itself on mass collection of field data and self improvement, The Red Pill, "TRP" has brother movements that b came the "manosphere" around a decade ago: NoFap a half formed brother which was coopted by controlled opposition and killed from within in just a few years. MGTOW, these were men saying that they weren't interested in pursuing the common women of our time, not some vow to remain celibate or avoid marriage or shun all women but to set their own standards and keep them, some men in this group have impossible standards or just hide behind the label as a coping mechanism but most are just disregaurding females on some general terms, if a good woman made an effort to make a catch out of one she would be able to 9 out of 10 times. MRAs, men's rights advocates, these guys are doing a good thing and fighting the culture war against feminism, politically I'm not necessarily a fan of their notion of fixing the problem at hand, I see them as combat medics providing emergency care to a system that has been shit in the aorta and needs serious intervention they cannot provide but they have good optics and raise the big problems to people blinded by kikes. A huge spattering of cucks and kikes subverting these movements internally, whom we could identify and show the [wooden] door if more of us chose to interact with and guide these movements. The last is the newborns of the manosphere it's sort of the aborted child if the time when that buzzword was gaining steam, the Incel community. "Incels" [involuntary celibates] are complicated many are frustrated aging virgins but it genuinely appears that many are just men who have come to learn the true nature of women and hate them, and so I would say that the Incel community are maybe half virgins, maybe a bit more, only half of whom are really involuntary celibates the other half just won't fuck fatties, uggly chicks, negresses etc, they are picky, they want good women but they can read the matrix and so don't try until they find a great girl then have no chance because they have no experience with a remotely successful relationship. The other side of the Incel community are mgtow and trp guys who just hate the modern woman and enjoy the Incel community memes and banter.
The right should be guiding the no fap community as it once did before sectarian division between Protestants and Catholics were wedged open by kikes and sjws who wanted to kill it. TRP and PUA can't be lead by us but we should be making a pro social argument for behavior in these places and teaching the tricks to our men and boys, they have great advice even for men looking to marry virgins as a virgin, they are a good portal by which to mentor young men looking for masculine guidance. MGTOW men are at the very least busy worker bees looking to improve their lives and ripe for the redpill on Jews and many other things, we should be able to get along and ideologically pollinate them. We should be participating if only to drive kikes out, these communities already lean right across the board rejecting them would be foolish when we need allies and allowing kikes to flourish and defeat whom they perceive as a threat where we could easily fight them back would be a massive failure on our part. The Incel crown aren't great optics but they make good memes and are extraordinarily politically incorrect these aren't men we should discard these are the men we should be fighting for, to help them lift themselves up and pursue a future with more white children.
Lastly I say these groups and what I have described here are the folks who pursued gamergate caused the creation of 8chan, the kickoff for the right wing swing and ultimately the memetic warfare that powered Trump's 2016 election in fact all of the top mods on r/the_donald in the beginning were TRP mods and shit posters and they had it stolen from them because kikes fear an empowered white man who dominates his relationships with womenand can avoid/identify poison women.
TL;DR: MGTOW doesn't mean no to marriage or children or women, it means no to a bad deal, most mgtow are just improving themselves to try and get a better deal.
[–] BordelonLoop 1 point 0 points 1 point (+1|-1) ago
"we should be pushing an age gap so that right-wing men establish themselves and marry the youngest girls they are legally able to, the goal being to mimic the control our ancestors had over their women by not giving them this time destroy their purity and become poison to their people, it's a successful strategy in Islam and other conquest cultures."
[–] Niceballsnigga ago
Not even the same country, much less ballpark.