[–] 19810708321b ago
Think for yourself, educate yourself about consequences, make rational decisions about relationship, and love a single women who wants to be loyal, monogamous, and provide and be mothers to their children without being selfish. Stay away from goldiggers too.
That is MGTOW. It's a temporary educational stage, where as Feminism is enslavement for a lifetime.
[–] edgydude69 1 point 0 points 1 point (+1|-1) ago
I mean, thatd make sense if most mgtow weren’t already dad’s.
[–] PaulNeriAustralia 2 points 0 points 2 points (+2|-2) ago
MGTOW's are men who have thrown off enslavement!
[–] goatboy 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago (edited ago)
...by removing themselves from the gene pool.
Nah dude. If they were really fighting the slavers, then they’d: consolidate into a unified political system, fund a superpac, found an exclusive men’s-only organization, form a irl community that only allows like minded men in and subsidized other MGTOW to join them, etc.
Instead, they squander their time and power in vain pleasure seeking.
[–] PaulNeriAustralia ago
Agree - the key to change is political power and that involves organisation and money and most of us, including me, prefer to sit at the computer ranting and raving.
[–] BoomerHater1488er 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
In another 25 years, I can't wait to see the enormous spike in suicide when all these incels realize it's now too late for them to have a family and that it would have been better to have a crappy family than no family lmfao.
Ah, well. I wound up with two daughters and no sons. Every MGTOW is one less shit tier family I have to worry about one of my daughters marrying into...
[–] Neon_daemon ago
mgtow was a half baked idea to combat pc culture before people could make sense of the nonsense and put words to things. dont attack them bring them under the wing. the quicker we vanquish our enemies the fasterwe shed all these bullshit things we do to combat pc culture
We’re very selective and only want the toughest, smartest, bravest, most adaptable, and Bad ass of society. Voat has a proven system for separating the chaff.
By all means, attack them. If they really believe what they claim and are more than perpetual worthless victims, then they will defend themselves and their ideas against every serious, silly, trolling, absurd argument , or shitpost goats throw at them- and come out stronger because of the argument.
[–] CowboyXero 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Me at present:
-Working (One Day Job, One Side Hustle)
-Learning (One to two hours per day through Cybrary, Udemy and Khan Academy, respectively for a possible side hustle to turn into a profiting business later)
-Rebuilding Finances (paying off debt while making small investments as I'm able to in precious metals)
-Exercising (Five to six days per week, two hours per day minimum)
-Happy (Exercise isn't just changing me physically but mentally as well. Depression has been sent packing)
-No Drugs (unless you're counting caffiene and nicotine which the latter, I can do days without)
-No Wife, No Girlfriend, No Children
Went my own way after my second divorce. My quality of life improved. During my second marriage I thought, "How the hell can it get any worse than this?" Then the post-Divorce happened and it did. Blue State. I got through all of that. In my own opinion, my life is pretty sick awesome. More so now than during the last couple years of marriage and much better than the few years post-Divorce.
Right now, for me, everything's ducky. Now, let's go into your post.
Right now, you can see that I am an independent person. Getting stronger physically every day. Let's say that I decide right this second to go find someone to fall in love with, maybe marry but definitely have children with. There's no quality of life there for any of us. Financially, I'm not able to support a marriage and a child even if conditions were ideal which we all know they never are all the time. So what benefit would me having a large family be if I have no means to support it? I've seen some bitch, piss and moan that their children will be paying for my retirement so the opposite of that if I were to do it right now would be their entire family paying for mine. Not something you want, not something I want.
Take into consideration the area I'm in at present. Let's say, conservatively, there's an estimate of about 90% of women that have addictions (face it, that's what they are) to drugs like Xanax, Prozac, Adderall, Ritalin and Concerta. In my day job, I see the amount of women that "need" that shit to get along. One script for that is bad enough but for some it's a combo of the two or three. I've been up against that in my last marriage. You can't "sculpt" that and the doctors? They don't want to work with you at all. You're interrupting their customer base. In fact, they want YOU on that stuff too and they think something is wrong with YOU if you refuse. Of that 90%, they're on these drugs, attending Marxist indoctrination centers and they have a drug-reinforced, mentally-ill belief system that is boosted by media like CNN which is popularly consumed. They #BelieveAllWomen and #MeToo and just go for the official story hook, line and sucker. That's a minefield. Search for the 10% and maybe you succeed...big maybe. Better chance that you're going to hit a mine and anyone can be a minesweeper...once.
Now let's say that I go my own way for the time being. I spend time building my situation, my wealth, my mind and my body into the best they've ever been and I choose to protect that. Then, I'm in a far better situation. Then I can move to an area where the mix isn't such a minefield. Then, maybe I choose a woman who will be a suitable life partner and who will bear my children and then I can teach them to build themselves first and settle for nothing but the absolute best. Never make excuses and take no excuses from anyone. Once I retire with the woman I've chosen, then my children and yours don't have to take care of us, financially. We're not a burden on society, we're not a burden on them and, when I'm gone, I will have something to pass on to all of them to ensure that they're taken care of.
I don't know which of those you would choose and, frankly, I'm not asking. I know which way I've chosen to go and it's been decided and no ridicule, no downvotes, nothing anyone else says will change that and there's nothing anyone can do about it.
The title of your post is completely bullshit. The entire missive you post after clicking on this title shows it. You've made up your mind. You don't want it changed and you won't hear actual evidence to the contrary. What you expect is for the man who's been run through the grinder to pull his pulpy mass back together haphazardly and jump back in, leading to more of the same. If he doesn't he's a disgrace to you. How, realistically, do you think that pans out? Your oversimplification reflects that you want nothing more than to micromanage the lives of others and, I don't know if you've noticed but I'll go ahead and point it out. Many Americans have been putting up with that. We're all fucking tired of it. That's why Trump's in office right now. That's why House Democrats aren't long for office. If we're tired of that type of insufferable know-it-all attitude from politicians, we won't take it from some random person on a website who thinks he has the world on a string and has it all figured out.
Two divorces showed me that, at my young age, I didn't have it figured out. Not by a damn sight. My advice, correct that shit before you end up learning you don't the hard way. Spare yourself that pain.
So if me choosing to rebuild myself and my situation into something far better before even considering female companionship and children is being a disgrace to my race well I have news for you. I've been called worse by better.
That's all I got. Unplug for awhile. Go for hikes. Learn a skill for fun and profit and get out there and own it.
[–] High_Sierra_Trail 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
You must be lonely, what with being such a significant dipshit.
[–] capnflummox 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
4.6 year account that doesn't post much suddenly has an opinion...
[–] Niceballsnigga ago
Not even the same country, much less ballpark.