[–] Sir_Ebral 6 points -3 points 3 points (+3|-6) ago (edited ago)
Preach on, brother.
"b..but.. god just wants to test us.."
For what purpose? Why would any benevolent creator cause suffering amongst its creations?
If god is real, why do niggers exist? Why do jews exist? Why are we Europeans, obviously the greatest peoples in the history of the world in constant struggle against enemies? I can't abide by any god who purposely causes its creations to suffer.
[–] Patriotic_Legend ago
free will
original sin
the fall of satan
[–] antiracistMetal 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
You can't have free will if an entity knows all existence because the knowledge presupposes that existence has already occured in it's entirety for it to be known.
Yes you can. I bet you can go into a store and order the same thing every day. The chef knows what you're going to order before you do. You hesitate and look at the menu. But then you order what you always do. He knew that you would. But you'd still maintain you ordered freely. No one was controlling you.
Even if mad scientists were controlling you with chips in your brain. They would know what your order would be. But after your order, you would maintain that you ordered freely, unknowing about the mad scientists who controlled you.
In conclusion, free will and belief in your own personal free will do not depend a lot on someone already knowing you're going to do something.
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[–] fusir 0 points 12 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago (edited ago)
Would you prefer a God who entirely removes your free will? Because he respects agency negative consequences still exist. You say you are more moral that him, but the God you demand to exist for him to exist is a God you would hate.