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[–] 21894769? 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Not necessarily.

No problem.

There's the left's (re)'definition' of patriarchy, a boogie man of sorts, defined by wealth and power, for which the aforementioned families fit the bill.

Then there's the original definition of patriarchy as a system of society or government by fathers or elder males of the community, for which none of these families are a representative.

I believe a right winger, at least a red-pilled one, will not recognize those families as part of a real patriarchy but as imposters that are not legitimate rulers.

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[–] 21894956? 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Fair response.

I believe a right winger, at least a red-pilled one, will not recognize those families as part of a real patriarchy but as imposters that are not legitimate rulers.

I think that there would, barring obvious extreme examples, be a matter of intellectual honesty. Anyone who's honest and learned enough (left, center, right, whatever) would be able to agree with the italicized sentiment.

I honestly for a brief moment completely sidelined the original definition, wasn't on my mind at all for the purpose of this conversation.

If I may paraphrase you for a moment (not trying to twist the quote):

There's the left's (re)'definition' of patriarchy, a boogie man of sorts

The right has its own "boogie man" terms too, hell even I do and I'm neither. It's just something humans do. Again though, there's probably a lot of crossover as to the specifics when we break it all down and leave the fluff aside.

(Not trying to be argumentative by the way, just enjoying the exchange)

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[–] 21895584? ago 

I honestly for a brief moment completely sidelined the original definition, wasn't on my mind at all for the purpose of this conversation.

Fair enough, your questioning brought this forward into my mind as well.

The right has its own "boogie man" terms too, (...). It's just something humans do. Again though, there's probably a lot of crossover as to the specifics when we break it all down and leave the fluff aside.

I believe there are definitely polarizing forces at work, whether by conscious entities like Soros, Roths, Black Pope, Trump, Satan, etc. or 'unconscious' entities like r/K selected genes that express the power of their memes through the political divide.

[As a background, I come from the 'left' and did hold 'centrist' viewpoints in the past.]

As much as I understand 'the left', when looking from their own perspective and through their own ideologically-tinted glasses, I still believe that 'the right' is justified in this ideological battle.

I respect everyone's right to be on the 'left' or 'center' but I don't find those positions to be justified.