[–] 21894769? 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Not necessarily.
No problem.
There's the left's (re)'definition' of patriarchy, a boogie man of sorts, defined by wealth and power, for which the aforementioned families fit the bill.
Then there's the original definition of patriarchy as a system of society or government by fathers or elder males of the community, for which none of these families are a representative.
I believe a right winger, at least a red-pilled one, will not recognize those families as part of a real patriarchy but as imposters that are not legitimate rulers.
[–] 21894956? 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Fair response.
I think that there would, barring obvious extreme examples, be a matter of intellectual honesty. Anyone who's honest and learned enough (left, center, right, whatever) would be able to agree with the italicized sentiment.
I honestly for a brief moment completely sidelined the original definition, wasn't on my mind at all for the purpose of this conversation.
If I may paraphrase you for a moment (not trying to twist the quote):
The right has its own "boogie man" terms too, hell even I do and I'm neither. It's just something humans do. Again though, there's probably a lot of crossover as to the specifics when we break it all down and leave the fluff aside.
(Not trying to be argumentative by the way, just enjoying the exchange)
[–] 21895584? ago
Fair enough, your questioning brought this forward into my mind as well.
I believe there are definitely polarizing forces at work, whether by conscious entities like Soros, Roths, Black Pope, Trump, Satan, etc. or 'unconscious' entities like r/K selected genes that express the power of their memes through the political divide.
[As a background, I come from the 'left' and did hold 'centrist' viewpoints in the past.]
As much as I understand 'the left', when looking from their own perspective and through their own ideologically-tinted glasses, I still believe that 'the right' is justified in this ideological battle.
I respect everyone's right to be on the 'left' or 'center' but I don't find those positions to be justified.