[–] Maroonsaint 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago (edited ago)
Then they’re building better robots that are building better robots that are building better robots. Dude there’s no way if they want us dead we’re not gonna make it. There’s no fuckin way. It’s not gonna be like terminator robots that we can trick. Theylll be gods in comparison to us. Personally I think we’re gonna integrate ai into our own bodies but who knows
[–] Maroonsaint ago
Imagine you reach to grab your gun or whatever. To shoot this thing. By the time you’ve gotten your hand your side it’s had 15 years it’s time to contemplate what it’s gonna do
[–] Maroonsaint ago
Here’s something to listen to if you feel like it. It’s really interesting total doomsday stuff https://youtu.be/BChxQHyFIOI
Guy goes way into it
[–] Wall41and14Wall ago
I watched it, and it focuses on the intelligence, which is valid. The part that he glosses over, right at the beginning, is he says "solar powered" and then moves on to the intelligence.
There will be an intelligence explosion, but there is a tremendous leap from intelligence in a computer to a real world manufacturing system. Is the system going to build mining operations? smelting? etc. Going from sunlight to motion is a very intensive process with many different pitfalls and disconnects in between.
I want to see a computer build a design in Solidworks/Autocad/Freecad, and move that to a cnc machine and produce the final result, quality check it, and do it all within a confined power limit.
The reason humans have become so intelligent and conquered the world is because our power source, ie food - for the most part - grows passively on its own.
If the conjecture that it takes more energy to make a solar panel than it produces is within a factor of 2 to 4 of being true, then where do the robots get their energy from?
The important point to me is that electronics/mechanicals/robots, etc are extremely fragile compared to a human and carry all their energy in a single place. Humans store fat and can live off of the fat for up to 3 weeks or more and can be productive in that time.
Show me any machine that can run for 3 weeks on its own energy stores at a productive level, and I'll become scared.
[–] Wall41and14Wall ago
I am curious as to how you think about this:
Most things in life are 'goal driven.' In nature the goals seem to simplify to 'eat and fuck.' Humans have those goals as well, but also strive for pleasure and comfort among other personal quests.
What do you imagine the goal for a supremely intelligent AI would be - supposing it had the ability to take over the world? Will AI have an inherent curiosity of some sort? To what end?
Thanks
[–] Maroonsaint ago (edited ago)
I imagine it would want to expand or it would do nothing. Maybe it would build wormholes idk. Thats like askin your dog what it thinks your goals are it wouldn’t get it. What if it builds a simulation where humans evolve to create ai. And that’s where we are now. Twilight zone music
[–] Maroonsaint ago
I think you’re really underestimating the power of something intelligent connected to every bit of information. Something that clean learn a million times faster than us. Not only but increase the rate at which it’s learning faster every few whatever. It would think so much faster than us. It’s not like a comparable thing. It’s like 10 years to us is 2 million to them kind of thing. Once it gets going we won’t even have a chance it’ll be strictly at their mercy.