[–] Tallest_Skil ago
If they were truly indecent, they would be promoting their indecency.
Take one look at society.
How many evil men that you've seen codify morality?
Have you read the Talmud? Or walked outside? Come on, man.
[–] i_yam_wat_i_yam 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Don't twist my words. You know what I mean.
How can an evil man promote good? Your argument is incoherent.
[–] Glipglup 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Nobody believes they are truly evil. Some gang bangers cut people apart with a chainsaw but then get upset if you mistreat kids. Nobody is really truly evil, in a sense, they just have fucked up moral systems but nature doesn't care about morals, only survival. Empathy is a survival mechanism, nothing more.
[–] i_yam_wat_i_yam 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
If I choose to enslave and rape one of your female relatives to make them produce my children, don't be outraged. It's just a survival strategy.
Same for the Jews. All the lying and deception, the theft and enslavement is just a survival strategy.
You make a relativist judgement by saying;
Then immediately contradict it with an absolutist moral judgement;
Adding "in a sense" doesn't make it non-contradictory. You have two sets of moral codes that are in conflict:
All is fair as long as it's for survival
All is not fair because there is a clear distinction between right and wrong in the case of survival.
Either it's not fucked up to survive no matter what, or it's fucked up to live only for survival.
[–] ThirteenthZodiac ago
I don't blame the pests for wanting to be indoors when it's winter outside. That's an entirely rational thing for them to do, and from their perspective, it is the best option.
That's not going to make me feel bad about killing them, because I don't want them in my house. If I let them stay because I'm a softhearted fool, they'll repay me with disease and eating up my stores. My destroying them is an entirely rational decision.
And, I would argue that understanding the enemy prevents us from underestimating them. I understand that some folk are soft and will sympathize with them, but I'm not one of those people. Whether or not my enemy is justified in his actions against me is irrelevant: I will still respond in kind, but understanding why he made the moves he did may give me keener insight into his approach and how he may counter my responses, and so on.
Whether or not (((our enemies))) are literally evil isn't my concern, as I don't believe in objective morality. Their actions are destructive for my people, which is sufficient reason for me to seek their destruction. I don't need an outside justification beyond that, nor do I need an external source of morality to give me the okay for my thoughts or actions.