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[–] gindc 0 points 25 points (+25|-0) ago 

"But researchers at Simon Fraser University surveyed a group of Vancouver high school students and found bullies were the least likely to be depressed, had the highest self-esteem and the greatest social status."

Basically not too different from chickens establishing a pecking order. The topped rank chicken will literally peck at (bully) lower ranked chickens.

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[–] PM-me-about-Autism 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

If I knew this it would have saved me a lot of trouble.

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[–] gindc 3 points 3 points (+6|-3) ago  (edited ago)

If I knew this it would have saved me a lot of trouble.

Me too. If I had known it was natural to bully, I wouldn't have felt so guilty about doing it.

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[–] AberdolfLincler 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago 

So another case of correlation does not equal causation?

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[–] gindc 1 point -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

All science is correlation and causation. If a theory is correlated with reality the theory can be confirmed.

Correlation may not equal causation. But at the same time, that's exactly how science works.

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[–] Feeling_my_goats 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Lord of the flies.

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[–] nomenimion 2 points 9 points (+11|-2) ago 

In my experience, bullies are not happy people.

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[–] anonlymouse [S] 1 point 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

They already talked about that. The visible ones aren't, but they don't make up the majority of bullies.

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[–] nomenimion 2 points 12 points (+14|-2) ago 

I suspect they're using an overly broad definition of the word.

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[–] y2imm 1 point 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

In my experience they've been very happy, getting off on torturing others to satisfy their egos.

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[–] NikoMyshkin 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

sounds more like Dark Triad with pronounced psychopathy than just garden entirety bullying

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[–] mox ago 

Anecdotal evidence wins the day again!

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[–] mox 1 point 29 points (+30|-1) ago 

I wonder if bullies are more likely to lie on surveys about these variables - e.g. they say they're happier because they're putting up a front all the time - even for anonymous surveys. Could relate to:

Rob Frenette, co-founder of the advocacy and support group Bullying Canada, says he has yet to encounter a bully who did not have some underlying issue — such as violence at home — that was a likely environmental trigger for the bullying.

Obviously this would be pretty tough to tease out.

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[–] anonlymouse [S] 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

The problem with that is you have to make sure non-bullies don't have problems at home.

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[–] RonaldRayGuns 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

who doesn't have 'some underlying issue'? that's a bullshit factoid

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[–] yafgi ago 

A pity that the study is rejected by people based on not liking the outcome of the study, instead of doing a peer review or trying to conduct a repeat study to see if the outcome is correct. Regardless how you feel about bullying, you should work with what is proven to be true, not reject something because 'it doesn't feel right'. It might turn out the study was flawed, but please prove that instead of rejecting it because you don't like the outcome. This is science, not religion.

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[–] mox ago 

I'm not rejecting the study or disagreeing with its outcome, and didn't say that anywhere in my OP. It's an interesting topic, and like all science, one study doesn't confirm or deny anything. This study is the beginning of an interesting conversation that I'm looking forward to following along with. Relax.

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[–] Quawonk 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Of course bullies think they're better than everyone else. That's why they do what they do.

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[–] Kiwibomb 2 points 1 point (+3|-2) ago 

This study was a colossal waste of time.

Higher Social Status (Popular) Highest Self Esteem (Popular) Lower Rates of Depression (Popular) all this damn study did is confirm anything we have experienced in high school or ever seen in ANY teenager based TV Show/Cartoon/Movie.

Damnit now I am thinking about "Not Another Teen Movie"

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[–] didntsayeeeee 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Damn damn, that shit's wack!

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[–] Kiwibomb ago 

Senor you just blew my Perfect SeaZON!

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[–] FreshieD 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

That certainly seems to fly in the face of what's been said in the past; that bullies pick on others to alleviate their own feelings of inadequacy.

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[–] jeegte12 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

People who say that are the same people who say homophobes don't like gay people because they're actually trying to hide being gay themselves. It's just pseudo-psychological fantasy.

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[–] FreshieD ago 

Ah, well, I'm one of the people who says that. The only reason I can see someone being homophobic is if they're afraid that being exposed to homosexuality will make them question their own sexuality and they're so insecure that scares them and/or they're brainwashed by religion to hate anyone the church leadership tells them to.

I'd love to hear a reasoned/rational counter-argument to that if you have one, it might help me understand some of the people in my family.

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[–] SharonLeeFan ago 

Yeah if you take a look at some of the most vocal anti-gay US politicians, you'd see that that theory holds water. Some homophobes are just assholes, but plenty are self-repressed gays.

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[–] the_spectre 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

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[–] Ralph_Malph 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

First thing that came to my mind upon reading the post title.

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[–] bunsenhoneydew 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

So people who think they're better than others generally feel like they're better than others.

Next time we should do a study to see what religion the pope identifies under

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