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[–] PaulNeriAustralia 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago 

I and I live mainly on chilli beans. I am fit, healthy and handsome. Killing animals in order to eat them is highly immoral imo.

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[–] outrider787 ago 

Health Benefits of going vegetarian are clear, but its not worth it, food is too boring then---and imagine not eating bacon again, the best tasting food in the world

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[–] tulsyElko 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

My GF had 2 lung surgery's from endometriosis (pnuemothorax), so due to inflammation, she switched to a vegan diet, and I came along for the ride. I was born on a farm, she was born on an island, and we both grew up eating evey kind of vegetable, fruit, or meat available...we were omnivores before going vegan.

We're in our early 40s now, and I've never felt better. We used to exercise 6 days a week, now we maintain on 3 days (lift for an hour on Wednesdays, cardio/kickboxing with weighted-gloves on Sat & Sun 1hr each). We also intermittent fast. Wake up at 7, work by 8, have a black Americano till 8:30, first meal @ 1:PM (full bowl of raw veg, at least 7 different types, plus bean/protein, oil and vinegar, salt, dill, seeds and hemp hearts, etc., and 500ml water to drink), home by 6, dinner at 7, rest of the night its healthy snacks cereals, nuts, fruit, etc., till 10:PM. Drink black tea all night, sleep around 11PM.

We rarely drink, but vape dry herb (pot) all evening long. Love it. My GF looks like an athlete now, absolutely no inflammation, neither one of us has needed any medication in the last 5 years, if we get a cold, just peel some fresh ginger into your tea all night.

For B vitamins, and other special nutrients you would normally get from meat, eat fermented foods (kimchee, real sauerkraut, etc.), eat a piece of seaweed everyday (pack of huge sheets for 6 bucks at grocery store), add nutritional yeast wherever possible, and drink unsweetened original almond milk often.

You feel better when you clean up your diet an stay fit, but going vegan improved our libidos aswell. Sex was always great, and frequent, but my erections are stronger than ever now...often, you'll have sex before bed, go to sleep still hard, and wake up still hard. It's like some kind of natural viagara, I can only imagine, since I've never needed it. In my 30s i felt like it wasn't feeling quite as hard down there, like noticeable difference from my twentys, I would say. I noticed it a lot more after i went vegan, because it all came back around, never been so good, for real.

It's also cheap, organic food gets delivered to our door, we clean and process it all in vacuum sealed containers, take a bit from each veg for lunches, new veg each week, saving thousands each year.

People eat fucking garbage meat...if you do want to eat SOME meat, keep it small portions, and only top quality shit. Don't settle for cheap meat from weak animals.

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[–] Intrixina 1 point -1 points (+0|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Don't use words that you have no idea what they mean.

A collapsed lung isn't the same, nor is caused by having uterine tissue outside the uterus, you dumb fuck. But then again, that's why you're vegan - you're a dumb fuck.

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[–] tulsyElko ago 

You know FUCK ALL about endometriosis. You're a fucking moron.

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[–] i_scream_trucks 1 point -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

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[–] d3r [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Great, this corealates with what I've read. Thanks for the detailed response.

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[–] tokui ago 

Reduced sperm quality, proven.

Kys, I don't care.

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[–] d3r [S] ago 

From meat or veagan?

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[–] tokui 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

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[–] CrustyBeaver52 ago 

You need certain nutrients from the Earth to survive. You can eat the plants to get them. You can eat the animals that eat the plants. You can eat the animals that eat the animals that eat the plants. It doesn't matter so much as getting all of the nutrients that you need. That's the part that really matters.

The biggest problem with Vegans are nutrient shortages, which lead to chronic disease. The same problem exists in all supermarket foods, which are low in real nutrition. Eating food without nutrition makes you fat because you are actually starving, the food your body doesn't need is stored as fat, and you will develop the same chronic diseases as the Vegans, from the same lack of proper nutrition.

When your nutritional needs are met, you will not be hungry, or tired, or sick. Even your mood stays fairly upbeat, and you sleep better too.

The real secret is to get either plants or animals that are rich in nutrient content, and you cannot get that from the industrial food stream.

Local farmer's markets and grow your own seems to be the answer. You can also go out in the wilderness and kill your food directly. It tastes fantastic because it is actually real food.

If you can't get real food, (which is harder in the big cities,) you can supplement with vitamins, which helps. The right food already has the vitamins within it.

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[–] d3r [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I feel tired all the time but I think in my case it's due to just eating meat. Maybe a more balanced approach is the solution.

I'm just intrigued from the interviews, namely from one of the strongest men on the planet and Nate Diaz (an mma fighter) who rave about its benefits.

That's basically what intrigued me but I don't want to just blindly follow something without due diligence.

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[–] CrustyBeaver52 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Sounds like you could add some veggies to your diet. Older people do it all of the time.

Even just adding a salad can do wonders. Some carrots, etc.

If it doesn't help then you might be being exposed to a toxin somewhere.

Fatigue comes from deficiency, but also from heightened immune system response to toxins and infections. Like how you can become tired when you catch a cold.

Radiation exposure can cause fatigue too - being too close to a cell tower, for example.

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[–] Hey_Bud ago 

Don’t not be a queer be a man. Men eat meat.

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[–] d3r [S] ago 

I fucking eat lamb for breakfast. It might be time to try something else.

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[–] d3r [S] ago 

Fucccck. OK, again, I'm totally open minded to either side, I just don't get how there appears to be people functioning so well in The Game Changers. Any insight on that? Do you think it's a lie to push an agenda?

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[–] Tallest_Skil 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

If there would come a voice from God saying, “I’m against vegetarianism!” I would say, “Well, I am for it!” That is how strongly I feel in this regard. – ✡Isaac Bashevis Singer✡

Veganism has nothing to do with starving yourself of vital nutrients. It has everything to do with an egotistical belief that you are better than everyone else merely because of the molecules you shove down your food hole. As a biologist, I can tell you without a doubt that the food you are withholding is going to be your downfall. Joint pain, sterility, slow metabolism, lower body temperature, hair loss, severe muscular and skeletal deficiencies–not to mention the mental and emotional problems that will arise as a result. Upton Sinclair, author of The Jungle, had to abandon veganism because his mind and body were not able to function on a diet of mere fruits, vegetables, juice, nuts, and seeds. Gandhi, once a proud supporter of the vegan movement, declared their ideas were fraudulent, stating, “No wonder that mortality figures are on the increase and there is a lack of energy in the people. It would appear as if man is really unable to sustain life without either meat or milk products. Anyone who deceives people in this regard or countenances the fraud is an enemy of India.”

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[–] d3r [S] ago 

It seems so mixed, I mean, depending on who you speak with, veganism sounds like it makes you operate at max capacity yet what you're saying is the exact opposite. I can just try it, if after a few months I'll have my blood tested and see how everything is looking.

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[–] Tallest_Skil 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

After a few months you’ll look like this, if you even make it that far. You’re literally starving your body–moreover, your mind–of nutrients it can’t eat elsewhere. You’re biochemically designed to be an omnivore. You have the teeth for it. Most importantly is your mind. You can’t just flip your diet around on a whim. Your body’s not made for that, and you’ll lose your memory and cognitive function.

Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils ... commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. – 1 Timothy 4:1-4

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