[–] Fuckle_Chucks 0 points 5 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago
...help change the world, and suddenly it's everywhere.
Exactly; now how is the poor jew supposed to collect its tax shekels from tobacco if young people don't get addicted to it? How does vaping help israel? Think of the poor foreskinless children why don't you?
[–] Betty_Liberty 0 points 6 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago
I quit smoking with Vapes. Fuck them!
[–] spaceman84 1 point 11 points 12 points (+12|-1) ago
Mainstream news has been pretty forthcoming about the fact that the deaths were related to black market weed oil cartridges, not e-cigarettes. Only the FDA and certain corporations are jumping the gun on ecigs.
[–] Platypus43 [S] 1 point 0 points 1 point (+1|-1) ago
Yet ny banned flavored e-cig juice
[–] nonsense_guy ago
NY has been trying to pass that ban for years, the media blitz just gave them the manufactured consent to ram the bill through.
[–] slwsnowman40 ago
Well, yea, aren't you thinking of the children? I'm sure they are just looking out for the children and not banning it because they haven't gotten their cut to leave them alonw. /s
[–] Awful-Falafel 0 points 7 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago
Except the headlines conflate the two every single time.
[–] 20744290? 0 points 13 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago
you are literally inhaling water vapor
Wrong. Many of them contain many other things that you wind up inhaling. Not saying they are as bad as cigarettes but it isn't just water vapor. Most contain water, flavor (which could be a lot of different things) and propylene glycol or vegetable glycerin.
[–] Platypus43 [S] 2 points -2 points 0 points (+0|-2) ago
Oh gee! Thanks, I didn't know that. I only MADE THE GOD DAMN JUICE!!!!!!
[–] ForTheUltimate ago
Need ot invent the eChad cig: loaded with retro-viruses.
will make you chad or some mushroom, what the hell might as well try it you degenerate.
[–] RedWolfTheAnimal 2 points 1 point 3 points (+3|-2) ago
propelene glycol and vegetable glycerine are USDA certified products safe for human consumption. PG actually fights infections in the lungs.
The shit is HARMLESS. HARMLESS.
[–] 20745385? 1 point 3 points 4 points (+4|-1) ago (edited ago)
Safe for consumption in your stomach. So is steak, but try breathing it dumbass.
EDIT: And your PG fights infections was from one 1942 study in mice where they sprayed them with PG and then the flu and they lived. There was no follow up study as to if it was bad to inhale. I mean, peroxide would probably kill infection in your lungs but inhaling it would be fucking terrible.
[–] downvoatmachine 1 point 4 points 5 points (+5|-1) ago
for someone who claims to have been mixing their own fluids OP is ignorant on what is in them.... propylene glycol vegetable glycerin nicotine and flavorinzzz is a much more accurate answer. the PG is a primary ingredient in the pet safe radiator fluid, it's FDA approved for use as a heat transfer fluid and you will find it as an ingredient if you start reading food packages. the VG is whatever the flavorinzzz I question because there are so many options and it's hard to speak for them all.
[–] Platypus43 [S] ago (edited ago)
I used vegetable glycol (vg) because it's not nearly as harsh as pg, but some prefer the "more like a drag from a cigarette" feel of pg, a lot use a blend of each, but a juice with a 100% pg base is in my opinion not enjoyable. I noticed that certain flavors would produce a harsher hit too. Nigger, you can call me out for whatever reason you think is clever, but my summation of my story is what it is, so suck a dick.
[–] Creggieb 0 points 5 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago
This is true. In addition the media labels all four of the following activities as vaping
Boiling thc from plant matter using a convection vaporizer like the Volcano
Boiling propylene glycol, vegetable glycerin, candy flavorings and nicotine
Boiling thc distillate thinned with terpenes
Boiling vegetable glycerin , propylene glycol and emulsified thc distillate
If anyone is dying, it will be distillate cartridges thinned with rubbish terpenes, and sold in an area where pot is illegal.
[–] CameraCode0 0 points 20 points 20 points (+20|-0) ago
The only real evidence that we have that people are dropping dead is the word of the media.
[–] HeLovedPandas 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago (edited ago)
Any time The Media, in perfect unison, like one big on/off switch, demands that we all get upset about something assume the opposite.
[–] Platypus43 [S] 1 point 0 points 1 point (+1|-1) ago
What their essentially doing is turning it back to an underground thing, which is very easy to do, you want to vape? It does not take a fucking scientist
that's the thing about this. if you can do math, and buy the components, you can make your own juice.
even jewgle will give you resources for making the stuff at home.
i think that's a pretty big risk to BT. but even worse, any company that wants to mix and sell juice, can. the equipment is easy enough to get. vaping is killing big tobacco, and they're having a hard time meeting all the settlement agreements now.
[–] hang_em_high 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Exactly. What is it, 2-3 ingredients depending on how you blend it? Maybe a couple more if you want different flavors. It's been years since I vaped (and quit a decade long habit easily) so I need to figure out how this stuff is made again and push this anytime someone complains about this. Just make your own.
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[–] Reverse-Flash 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
big tobacco is addicted to cancer cash. gotta get that fix, yo.
[–] spaceman84 3 points 20 points 23 points (+23|-3) ago
Big tobacco is heavily invested in ecigs dumbass.
They own the crappy ones the gas stations sell. Basically disposable, and cigarette shaped
Most vapers are using custom modular equipment and juice either in vape stores, or online. Big tobacco may own some, but far from all of that market. Compared to basically dominating the combusting tobacco market
[–] 20744179? 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
It's Vitamin E acetate causing the issues, only in sketchy shit to begin with.