[–] Thatsthewayitwas 4 points 2 points 6 points (+6|-4) ago
Who the fuck ever said jet fuel melted steel beams? You don't need to melt metal to get it to bend or fail.
[–] Laserchalk 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Multiple problems with 3 towers that collapsed that day. WTC 1 and 2 couldn't have been crushed all the way to the bottom floor by the top half under gravity alone. Those buildings can hold multiple times their own weight. So even if those floors could have collapsed, it would be impossible for them to completely crush the entire building.
WTC 7 wasn't hit by a plane. The official story is that it apparently feel down to office fires. Steel framed high rises are designed to be completely engulfed in flames and not fall. WTC 7 only had fires on a few floors. The official story involves a sequence of extrememly unlikely events.The most impossible part is that WTC 7 fell at free fall acceleration. You can only achieve this acceleration when there is no resistance.
Dr Hulsey who is a professor of engineering at alaska fairbanks released his report of the collapse of WTC 7 just a few weeks ago. They determined that it is impossible for fires to cause the collapse of WTC 7.
[–] Scruffy_Nerfherder 2 points 1 point 3 points (+3|-2) ago (edited ago)
I heat finished steel parts to 2250 f every day. At that temp you have to worry about the parts deforming; but the parts we run at lower temps like 1700, we don't worry as much.
Thickness is everything. To get a part to temperature we estimate 1 hour per inch of thickness.
Of course most of the parts we deal with are smaller than thick steel beams.
It doesn't add up.
[–] Laserchalk 1 point 0 points 1 point (+1|-1) ago (edited ago)
Multiple problems with 3 towers that collapsed that day. WTC 1 and 2 couldn't have been crushed all the way to the bottom floor by the top half under gravity alone. Those buildings can hold multiple times their own weight. So even if those floors could have collapsed, it would be impossible for them to completely crush the entire building. They are also designed to withstand fires and plane crashes to begin with. They planned for that for that exact situation.
WTC 7 wasn't hit by a plane. The official story is that it apparently feel down to office fires. Steel framed high rises are designed to be completely engulfed in flames and not fall. WTC 7 only had fires on a few floors. The official story involves a sequence of extremely unlikely events.The most impossible part is that WTC 7 fell at free fall acceleration. You can only achieve this acceleration when there is no resistance. The only way to make a building fall at free fall acceleration is to break the supporting columns simultaneously.
Dr Hulsey who is a professor of engineering at alaska fairbanks released his report of the collapse of WTC 7 just a few weeks ago. They determined that it is impossible for fires to cause the collapse of WTC 7.
[–] Scruffy_Nerfherder 1 point 0 points 1 point (+1|-1) ago
They don't deform at 1500 f.
They don't.
[–] CheeseboogerHimself 1 point 1 point 2 points (+2|-1) ago
I bet some jew reported this to ADL for anti-semitism.
[–] ForTheUltimate 2 points -1 points 1 point (+1|-2) ago
There's an agrument that while they don't melt they become malleable enough.
[–] DoOver 3 points 0 points 3 points (+3|-3) ago (edited ago)
It's not even an argument, it's just a simple fact. You've got an entire building's weight sitting on top of a bunch of metal beams while the extremely high temps are causing them to fatigue and fail. It shouldn't be a hard concept for people to understand, yet so many deny basic physics.
I'm not denying that the trade center destruction isn't a conspiracy, but this steel beam/jet fuel "argument" is one that only total retards still bring up.
[–] Laserchalk 2 points 0 points 2 points (+2|-2) ago
The buildings are specifically designed to withstand fires, They can hold multiple times their own weight. They are over engineered for these exact situations. Even if it could cause a collapse, there is no way the top half of the building could completely crush the bottom half under gravity alone.
WTC 7 wasn't even hit by a plane. The official story is that it apparently feel down to office fires. Steel framed high rises are designed to be completely engulfed in flames and not fall. WTC 7 only had fires on a few floors. The official story involves a sequence of extremely unlikely events.The most impossible part is that WTC 7 fell at free fall acceleration. You can only achieve this acceleration when there is no resistance.
Dr Hulsey who is a professor of engineering at alaska fairbanks released his report of the collapse of WTC 7 just a few weeks ago. They determined that it is impossible for fires to cause the collapse of WTC 7.
[–] TheAntiZealot 1 point 0 points 1 point (+1|-1) ago (edited ago)
Pfft!
I can melt steel beams with jet fuel in my sleep!
[–] CameraCode0 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Who's the creator? It's conveniently cut off.
[–] carlip 1 point 10 points 11 points (+11|-1) ago
obviously you need to add drywall and carpet to increase the horsepower of the fire.
[–] Adminstrater 1 point 5 points 6 points (+6|-1) ago
Don't forget aluminum... implausibly red-glowing, molten aluminum.
[–] Tb0n3 2 points -1 points 1 point (+1|-2) ago
You don't need to melt steel to significantly weaken it
[–] Scruffy_Nerfherder 1 point 1 point 2 points (+2|-1) ago
You need more that 1500 degrees. I do it every day.
[–] Diggernicks 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
If you add two stroke oil it'll give the horsepower more power bands thus increasing the melting rate.
[–] Sitnikoff 1 point -1 points 0 points (+0|-1) ago
And the elevator to transport the fire evenly across all layers to melt the icing.