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[–] 20531461? 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Citizens owning a firearm is a threat to tyrannical government. **That is the purpose of the 2nd amendment **

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[–] 20546793? ago 

The reason that there have been so many posts just lately about "Red Flag" laws is that the President is formulating a plan to prevent these mass shootings where the culprits have been on SSRI drugs like Prozac and so forth. And they have been in treatment by psychiatrists who appear to be their handlers, with the psychiatrists then leaving town immediately after the shootings.

The President's plan includes due process, unlike current Red Flag laws in the various states.

The Commies don't want the due process part, because it doesn't work with their gun-confiscation-for-all plan. And they don't want to stop the drugging-up of mentally ill people and influencing them to commit these crimes, because the Commies want to use them for continuous gun grabbing propaganda in the news. So they are brigading against the President's plan to stop the mass shootings and protect gun rights at the same time, and will portray it as just another Red Flag law, and use it as another chance to say "Orange Man Bad.".

Don't fall for it.

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[–] 20547460? ago 

I'm not falling for anything. I've been following and researching all of this stuff long before Trump. I have no final opinion on Trump. But after three years he hasn't shown me anything at all indicating an inclination to protect anyone's constitutional rights - nothing about all the censorship, nothing protecting the 2nd amendment, no wall, with the exception of replacing some sections of pre existing wall, and so far no prosecutions of any high level treasonous government official. Words are cheap, as we found out with the patriot act protecting all our rights. How did that one work out?

If anyone in the country understands the false flag nature of the recent mass shootings, it should be Donald Trump. He has any number of ways to neutralize any fallout from inaction on new gun grabbing legislation. All he has to do is declassify one of thousands of documents about what took place in the past administration to completely drown out any call for gun grabs from the news cycle. He has no reasonable justification for any - and i repeat - any new anti 2nd amendment legislation. And if he does do so, he just lost any hope i have that he is what he purports to be - a patriot. In that case i would be voting for Hillary next election cycle, or Elizabeth warren, or Bernie sanders - whomever is running against him, Because an enemy in the open is MUCH preferable to a weasel in the shadows. At least you know the enemy. And i strongly suspect millions of patriots feel the same, from the general tone of conversations i hear.

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[–] 20530423? 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Government no longer represents the people.

Government no longer exists through the consent of the governed.

Government no longer abides with the constraints placed upon it by the Constitution.

Government is no longer legitimate.

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[–] 20533674? ago 

Red Flag laws... Oregon has them this is how it works... ANYONE can go tot he Police and say they OVERHEARD so-N-so talking about hurting themselves or hurting others... Police go the JUDGE... JUDGE makes a RULING.. the POLICE are ORDERED to come take SO-N-so's guns... SO-N so will first hear of this when COPS KNOCK on their door ... NOT ALLOWED to HAVE OWN WITNESSES ... YOU ARE FOUND GUILTY BEFORE YOU ARE ALOWED TO PROVE INNOCENCE... then YOU HAVE TO PAY to PROVE INNOCENCE

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[–] 20531811? ago 

I told Trump no more donations in his feedback survey for him and the RNC unless he drops this. It is a disgusting piece of legislation.

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[–] 20531780? ago 

these laws take away DUE PROCESS..

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[–] 20530579? ago 

We all need to learn real skills & form local networks for goods and services with our neighbors again.

Starve the beast.

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[–] 20530671? [S] ago 

Done.

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[–] 20529739? ago 

They've been taking honest people's money for years through civil asset forfeiture and nobody gave a shit. I'm assuming they are going to get away with taking the guns just the same. Unless people start marching in the streets to support each other. they will surely pick us off one at a time. That's one thing the Democratic party is actually good at supporting the other Democrats publicly.

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