[–] voats4goats 0 points 7 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago
Systemd is not UNIXy. It is not one small, good tool for one job. Systemd is your one-stop-shop, your centrally planned economy. And when they don't have that fairly specific but important thing, it's a lot harder for it to mix well.
This exactly. Its contrary to Linux's whole design philosophy
[–] notYOURfriend 0 points 5 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago
Linux is fucking done.
My next install will be OpenBSD (Free being pozzed and Net doesn't seem to have a proper workspace GUI).
[–] notYOURfriend 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
A cursory look around didn't show much documentation regarding installing a desktop - mind you, I last looked a few years ago.
But OpenBSD is far more interesting anyways, due to Theo's anti-SJW attitude.
[–] TeranNotTerran [S] ago
I don't know if FreeBSD is pozzed. They may have a code of conduct but I have yet to personally see anything ridiculous from them.
I met Kirk Mckusik (author of UFS, FreeBSD Kernel Internals book, rmdir(), etc) and his husband, Eric Allman (author of Sendmail). They invited me over and I got to see the original daemon painting and some famous daemon rug. They were friendly but not the slightest bit creepy or odd towards me. Never in his course did I hear anything SJW from either of them. Now Kirk isn't all of FreeBSD, but he's probably one of the biggest figures.
That said, nothing against Theo or OpenBSD. I'll have to read up more on his supposed anti-SJW attitude. FreeBSD has usually felt like 5 years behind for me and OpenBSD 10. FreeBSD is pretty niche as it is for hardware support, weird bugs, etc. OpenBSD is even more so.
[–] notYOURfriend ago
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/open-source-software-community.38130/post-3633629
Talentless and vile SJW harasser Randi Harper is Whiteknighted by creepy Colin Percival into the FreeBSD project
Harper spends her time combing through project communications and social media for wrongthink
Harper finds a target for harassment on the project and starts REEEEEEing
Harper makes such a complete ass out of herself she gets kicked out of the project
Harper and her Whiteknight Percival fume and plot behind the scenes to replace the FreeBSD Code of Conduct with an ideological weapon so SJW wackjobs like Harper can attack their ideological enemies without suffering any repercussions
Creepy nutcase Beeno Rice who is supposed to be head of FreeBSD security works with Percival to secretly ram their toxic Code of Conduct down the throats of the FreeBSD community
Rice is so incompetent at managing FreeBSD security an engineer is forced to fork the project with HardendBSD to fix the crap Rice is unable to because he spends his time REEEEEing on social media
The toxic SJW Code of Conduct is rammed down the FreeBDSD community's throats
Many long time key developers leave.
Everyone warns that this hijacking of the project by toxic SJWs is going to destroy the project
The toxic FreeBSD SJWs REEEEEE in anger and call everyone alt-right,neo-nazi,trumpster,manbabies who just want to harass teh wymens.
FreeBSD's two key technologies missing in Linux, ZFS and DTrace, are ported to Linux
FreeBSD is left with no unique tech selling point
Warner Losh harasses a developer of another OS giving a talk on security which everyone sees and is horrified by. Many people say the toxic behavior confirms what everyone says about the FreeBSD Core members
Losh is, wait for it...., put in charge of the FreeBSD Code of Conduct. LOL
More than halfway through 2018, FreeBSD donations are down by roughly half
No one is shocked
Also:
his husband
Yeah. I'm sure Freebsd is doing just fine.
[–] ThisIsMyRealName 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
This article sucks balls. I love a good critical piece about systemd, because half-coherent autistic screeching is amusing, but this one doesn't fit the bill.
[–] TeranNotTerran [S] 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
That's fair, it was more philosophical than specific. If you've used systemd a lot, it would make sense. If not, it probably does sound pretty ridiculous.
[–] ThisIsMyRealName ago
I have used systemd a lot. My systems at work all run RHEL 7.
[–] downton-stabby 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago (edited ago)
Systemd would just be another alternative if it weren't for the cultural push behind it. It's like Islam. It's not a religion.. it's just there to convert and control or destroy.
[–] trotskyberg ago
Not much substance. I can't really disagree, but there's so much complexity these days that we should focus on the overall collection of packages than any particular one. Our favorite distros should have systemd alternatives, but they'd have to be well-used distros in order to support more than one init system.
[–] privacy_first 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
Systemd dependencies are creeping up into userland packages, so much that they will not be installable unless you have systemd.
This is by design , so everybody will have systemd
Clearly NSA had an issue, Linux was not soo spyware friendly, had to do something.
Systemd is the perfect answer, covers all essential services, it is monolothing, it is a binary blob of code, you cannot disable or "adjust" it.
What is more likely.... that a bunch of "programmers" got together to write a replacement for an init system (that was working) for free and for fun OR that NSA paid them to actually do it ?
[–] TeranNotTerran [S] 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
This is ridiculous. Programmers operate mostly out of ego. They get some idea about how things should be and they make it. I think systemd is no different.
It's still completely open source and auditable.
Oh you know what else is big and monolithic? The kernel. That's right, they could monitor you from there.
Not every last thing is a conspiracy.
[–] trotskyberg ago
How can we get some more prolific contributors on board with this? Like an entire distro or from the kernel?
Sure, I can't deny that NSA is subversive as shit. We know that they're incessantly subversive because we know the kinds of people who make it up ;)
I'm hoping my favorite distro: Arch Linux, will have another full init system supported.
Also would be nice to be able to turn off AMD's PSP - because most of us don't have the cash to switch to Power9.
[–] TeranNotTerran [S] ago
runit seems a little lacking, but openrc looks promising. Will have to dig into it more later. Thank you!
[–] huutista 0 points 8 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago
Linux, Windows, BSD, doesn't matter. You still have Intel ME or AMD PSP.
[–] Paralaxor ago
Not if you're using a phenom.
[–] HndrxMn ago
Supposedly IBM's POWER9 chips don't have that but I have no way of confirming that. I would love to get my hands on some though.
[–] TeranNotTerran [S] ago
That is a bit of a blackpill. These things are certainly sketchy but I don't think deabreakers in all cases. It sounds like the biggest risk is using an onboard NIC if you have those turned on.
That said, you can buy laptops from Puri.sm that have ME supposedly disabled. Or older gear, like 2009 or so. My favorite value/performance/non-ME range of desktops (can work as servers, but physically big) is the Dell T5400. You can also get the T7400 but it's super big and heavy. I think that's the last generation without Intel ME.
They are about ten years old but still quite workable systems in my opinion. I bought a T5400 with 16GiB of ECC memory and an E5450 Xeon for $150 delivered off Amazon a couple years back.