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[–] TheKillerRabbit 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

By being an amazing site full of great content and friendly commenters. Actions are better than words.

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[–] 1336610? 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I agree. Reddit reached the point where media would report on Reddit's conversations when they were particularly well informed, and/or Reddit was included in other aggregators. While I really like VOAT, when it comes to the quality of say the Science section in Reddit vs Voat, Reddit has the volunteer manpower to make it have much more content. I think we need to focus on content first, because if we attract media attention, they come here and see it as barren compared to Reddit, that may be their lead story about it.

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[–] djjin14568 [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Both of your comments are well said. You could almost steal TheKillerRabbit's comment as a slogan: "Voat: A site full of great content, and friendly commenters."

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[–] BloodPool 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I get where you're coming from, and I think it's a great post. However, I don't currently think a free speech platform is going to be getting very much positive feedback from any MSM outlet, no matter the amount of positive PR. I may be completely wrong, and am all for being proven as such. It's just, right now, I think Voat is very much "of all worlds" and if we were to try to pander to any one type of media (or group), there will inevitably be outcry from some other type of media (or group). But I do see where you're coming from.

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[–] djjin14568 [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I completely agree that we are as you put: "of all worlds", but that does tie-in perfectly with the platform's slogan "Have your Say", yes?

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[–] BloodPool 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Again, I don't decry your point, just the likelihood of a positive perception from MSM currently.

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[–] djjin14568 [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

This. This is exactly what I'm talking about. Thanks for reading my rant, and for sharing your well designed subverse! It looks like Dan Carlin is a University of Colorado Boulder Alumnus? I don't know anyone remotely in that area, but perhaps one of our large Voat-user base has some sort of ties. Best of luck!

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[–] Stanley_Yelnats_IV 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Frankly, I think you're asking the wrong question: I believe this place is such a haven for good discussion and community precisely because it hasn't spent any time worrying what other people think about it. Bending over backwards to have a positive public image is what ruined Reddit; no need to make the same mistake again.

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[–] djjin14568 [S] ago  (edited ago)

I agree with you on the better overall conversation bit, but the other site's issues lie mostly with corporate interests more than their PR efforts. Don't get me wrong their "we screwed up" PR attempts were terribly bad. But, their bad PR efforts came out necessity to cover up efforts to monetize/raise capital for investors. This is why Victoria was fired, right? They wanted to change the formatting for the AMA's, and she did not like the suggested changes.

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[–] Stanley_Yelnats_IV 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Yes, but a big part of that, and the reason for the initial wave of people here, was because they decided to cut out "offensive" portions of their own community in an effort to become more acceptable on a public level. The problem isn't that they wanted more money, it's that in pursuit of it they tried to "sanitize" the site's image by excising communities like r/fatpeoplehate. The root of the problem was this focus on achieving a clean, positive public image.

The thing of it is, PR is the antithesis of good discussion. One of the reasons you don't tend to get great debates on Facebook is because people type comments with PR in the backs of their heads. "What will this make me look like," "what can I post that will get the most likes so I can 'win' the argument," etc. The best conservations are the most honest ones, and those are created when people don't have to worry about whether their comment will seem too offensive or extreme.

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[–] ObscureReference 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

There will be either SJW front reporters writing well-intentioned and semi-malicious articles or clueless reporters that keep on echoing the same shit while not taking time to check out the actual site. SJW's will googlebomb their favor writers keeping their reality on the first page of google.

Not that we have to act horrible, but maybe a little bit of sleeze will control the flow and keep out the uglier part of the clueless redditors with novelty accounts, communication only in memes and karma hording. Give voat time to grow slowly. Lets use this taint of sleeze to our advantage.

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[–] kabogle 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Don't shift public perception. Let them think we're all trash. If the people too fucking stupid to learn for themselves join, we will become reddit.

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[–] Bkow 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

By continuing what we are doing. We as a community are improving Voats image by just being us.

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[–] ConnectTheDots ago 

I think the best way we can draw in more people is to promote discussion. Staying civil and level headed with someone would show visitors that this site isn't made for hating others, but but a site where you can have a conversation with anyone and really see what they think.

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