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[–] Bryanhance 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I dont get it just say no if they force their way on your property thats tresspassing which is the greater crime. Collectingnwater or trespassing hint one can get you shot

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[–] Raxotic 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

They fly over our place (1000's of acres) and collect areal photos. If you change anything, they'll know.

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[–] Planetoftheclown 1 point 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

You can't protect an on going crime with property rights. Water rights are a complex topic in the west.

It's fucked up, but they moved there. They should have investigated more. In a lot of places when you purchase the land you do not automatically own the mineral rights.

On the other hand, I don't know how a pond denies the state the water in the first place especially when being used for irrigation since it will return naturally to the watershed.

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[–] vastrightwing 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Exactly. It's all about government asserting its rights over and above citizen's. Schools take parental rights away because they can. Courts force parents to make their children change their gender because they can. They force you to vaccinate your children because the pharmaceutical companies can require it. They tax your property because they can. And when they run out of money due to over spending they tax the rain water running off your property because they can.

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[–] Raxotic 1 point 1 point (+2|-1) ago 

This. It doesn't matter what the pond does. They don't have water rights, so they have no legal ground. Case closed.

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[–] udo 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

This sadly is true in many carribean island governments (no rain barrels allowed), the water belongs "to the people", but even socialist democrat areas in detroit it is Clown World regarding rain. IF YOU DO NOT COLLECT water, you are taxed for "storm drain impact" for "water runoff", hundreds of thousands of dollars in arrears possibly! But clown world Detroit at the same time charging you for rain water theoretical runoff based on square footage.... ALSO will not let you legally collect the rain water in any possible way at all.

Even farms cannot build holding ponds across the USA.

You own your land, but you cannot own any minerals under it sometimes, or water on or over it, or airspace above it, you can of course pay taxes for your land so the niggers can have full bellies on their free GibsMeDat food cards.

Detroit Is Billing Residents For Rain. It’s Going As Well As You’d Think:

https www.bridgemi.com/detroit-journalism-cooperative/detroit-billing-residents-rain-its-going-well-youd-think

https www.michiganradio.org/post/fee-or-tax-detroits-controversial-drainage-rate-faces-legal-challenge

http www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-news/backlash-grows-at-detroit-water-depts-drainage-fee

(fix the URLS yourself, voat is not letting me post URLs today)

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[–] captainstrange 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

You own your land, but you cannot own any minerals under it sometimes,

Water isn't always under it.

Like when it comes from the fucking sky for example.

This is about controlling food by proxy. Because who controls water, controls food, and by extension, the people.

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[–] udo 1 point 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

"mineral" meant all but water underground, but even water deep wells are regulated in some areas. I mean "mineral rights", like oil :

http://graphics.thomsonreuters.com/13/10/USA-FRACKING:RIGHTS.pdf

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[–] emmanuelgoldstien [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

WOW.

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[–] Pylote ago  (edited ago)

The fuck you talking about? Everyone in the Caribbean collects rain water and has water cisterns...

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[–] udo ago  (edited ago)

Cistern size laws in some countries, to limit "selling" or "speculating" , if you construct beyond three barrels or so. Bermuda is the most lenient and 14,000 gallons per bedroom allowed for a building. ( 1870 sq feet of water, or 12x12x12 feet max) Not allowed to have more than 14,000. Bermuda also makes you prove your water tanks are emptied and cleaned once every six years, leaving you with no water that day, until rains return, or rely on other nearby cistern, or order a "load" of water for a couple hundred dollars. It's a $1,000 dollar cost to clean.

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[–] captainstrange 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

This is the proper response.

Should have a massive protest movement that just help each other to dig protest ponds as a giant fuck you to the state.

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[–] DestroyerOfSaturn 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Derram? Think that's the right name. Please make script that turns all these posts into auto-archive links. Thanks. Most likely the wrong place to bring this up. Anyways, couple should've stood their ground. Lavoy finicum style.

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[–] emmanuelgoldstien [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Sad. RIP Lavoy finicum

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[–] Niggardly_Jew ago 

@Derram only archives sites that he considers "bad" from what I understand. It would be nice if he archived everything but I don't know what his processing power / server / bot is capable of.

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[–] cT9NlRLhxlyr 1 point -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

This isn't a cistern, it's a 4 million gallon lake.

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[–] captainstrange 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

You keep repeating this like a salty communist faggot that doesn't comprehend property rights.

The state doesn't own the rain bitch.

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[–] FlyinToadstar 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

The owner should designate the pond area as a dry storage silo and then charge the government daily rental and/or for drainage costs associated with "their" water intrusion. If the government isn't wiling to move their water off-site it seems a fourth amendment violation and unreasonable government intrusion onto private property.

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[–] cthulian_axioms 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

The proper response in this scenario is to drown the government official who ordered the destruction of the water supply. I GOT YER FUCKIN' WATER RIGHT HERE

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[–] Grunge 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I posted something like this on my little sub v/ifitpleasesthecrown

https://files.catbox.moe/hkr270.jpg

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