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[–] Clubtalk 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Good question

" ... we don't experience the process of an idea forming ..." if you get ideas or ideas happen to you, as you put it, then you do experience it.

Your question depends on how you would view/answer it. In relation to computer programs, maybe you could view it as some ... some kind of "random" result, maybe ... Computer programs do not have or experience ideas... Guess in the context of code some deep neural nets could experience some kind of rapid advance at some points - this do have some resemblance to idea forming. Not just that some simple algorithm quickly learns, which many do, but then more training have diminishing return. Maybe some inputs that crosses the network or brain in some more or less "random" routes or just keeps the signal all the way through connections or synapses...

I am very deterministic but ideas or what we perceive as some kind of "random impulses" are hard to explain. we still could . I still keep thinking they must come from somewhere.

I think the question is how do one create the phenomenon of an idea either in some kind artificial intelligence or an computer or animals or artificially created being?

humans can write different code or do stuff in a different way, algorithms do not write a new program by themselves?

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[–] Othmar_Regin [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

If AI can't form ideas(outside it's context) than it's not truly intelligent

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[–] retto 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

An idea can be a thought of how something in its current state will exist at a later moment based on different degrees of influence by the observer.

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[–] drakesdoom2 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I'm fairly certain we have secondary lines of thought that we are not aware of.

Just sitting back there looking for patterns. Taking all known information and just sticking different pieces together to see if they fit.

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[–] WhoToldYouThat ago 

We have a subconscious? I mean were not aware of a crap-ton of things going on in the back of our mind. We have a supercomputer crunching numbers in the background while we think about delicious sandwiches.

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[–] drakesdoom2 ago 

It's crunching something. Depending on the person and time of day that could be rocket maneuver node vectors or do you think that kid you knew 20 years ago with the really hot sister ever groped her?