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[–] zaakir1 3 points -3 points (+0|-3) ago 

Probably going to get down voted to oblivion, but the real trouble with Christianity is that they elevate a real life living and breathing man (Jesus), to the status of God. It's insulting, pagan, and no different than saying Julius Ceasar is God during the Roman Empire. It just takes a little bit of critical thinking. The real truth, is that Jesus was a prophet, delivering the word of God, like Abraham and Moses before him. This is what all other Abrahamic faiths believe. Praying to a man, will get you nothing in the eyes of God.

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[–] alphazebra 3 points -2 points (+1|-3) ago 

Jesus was never god. Tradition from 3rd century on made Jesus the Son, equivalent with God the Sun. Pagan got mixed into and corrupted true Christianity. Jesus was the first heavenly son of god, equivalent to Adam, the first earthly son of god. Jesus took Adam’s place and gave up a perfect, sinless life for the one Adam forfeited and doomed all of us, his children, to sin and death. Jesus prayed to his father and there are many other proofs against Jesus being the almighty and not part of a pagan trinity pantheon. We pray in Jesus’ name but not to him. We need to direct prayers to the same god Jesus directed his prayers to. Like all stuff behind the scenes in government that anons now know about, the history of religion is very much the same way. Most of the truth has been obfuscated from the masses under layers and layers of lies. OP, the answer is not to deny religion; but rather to examine the Bible itself for how god want us to serve him and not the other way round. Other commenters are right about those verses taken out of context. Foreigners were not just any ol person. Way back then, culture in Middle East was very hospitable. Foreigners would go to the town square and someone would invite them to their house for meal and lodging. That was the kindness to foreigners the Bible is talking about. There were other strict laws about theft and covetousness. Those could hold death penalty under Jewish law. Jesus summed up the now defunct Law in two commands. Love god with your whole self and love your neighbor as yourself. If you allow one neighbor to harm another neighbor is that showing love to both? Absolutely not. Showing love means abiding by justice so we don’t skew over to the oppressors side.

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[–] zaakir1 ago  (edited ago)

aye, very wise and exactly correct. Jesus was praying to God and shouldn't be confused WITH God - told ya we'd get down voted to oblivion though lmao

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[–] Ardithla ago  (edited ago)

John 10: 34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

We are all the offspring of God. Many of the Church Fathers in the later centuries taught that God (capital G) came into this world to become a man to teach man how to become a god (little g.)

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[–] moderator99 ago 

I won't read this. I go by the title.

Who cares about voat users and their beliefs? We're hear for information, not people. Quit whining about the fact that some people's belief system isn't what you like or dioesn't conform to your own.

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[–] DickTick [S] ago 

Wut

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[–] Podingo7 ago 

The Bible also warned of mingling with other nations.

1When the LORD thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee, the Hittites, and the Girgashites, and the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and mightier than thou; 2And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them: 3Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son. 4For they will turn away thy son from following me, that they may serve other gods: so will the anger of the LORD be kindled against you, and destroy thee suddenly. 5But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images, and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire. 6For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.

God is very compassionate and also wants generosity when it comes to welcoming foreigners, BUT, He said the foreigners must obeys the same laws in the land He blessed for His ppl or be removed.

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[–] chromaticalpaca ago 

The Bible also warned of mingling with other nations.

Yes, he warned the children of Israel. Christianity is already a syncretic, pagan religion, and intermingling between nations is what spread it.

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[–] greatheart ago 

I agree we should do more to help these migrants. We should inform their governments that we consider what they are doing to their people an act of war against the United States. The problem is not Trump. The problem is the policies put in place by the countries these migrants are coming from. We have no intention of going to war against those countries. We fully intend to go to war with the corrupt leaders of those countries.

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[–] Time4puff ago 

Huge difference when we voluntarily give oppose to forced to give. It should be an option and how much. Some of us are suffering financially as well, is it fair to raise taxes each year for this propose?

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[–] ZombiClown 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Deuteronomy 1:16 Give the members of your community a fair hearing, and judge rightly between one person and another, whether citizen or resident alien." Did you actually read any of those verses prior to posting? They actually say the opposite of what you are implying in your post! The current opinion?" Deal with them according to the law." Of which has been subverted which you fail to mention.Im sorry but your argument only relies on assumption on your part feeding the assumption of the balance of you post. Circle logic. Dont give up.~~~

~~~ There is not a single excuse any one of you could give to justify what's posted above versus the current opinions on the subject.... it is simply impossible to actually live like a Christian the way the Bible tells you to and not be a complete hypocrite every time you turn around.. Wow,so you failed to read the scriptures,and the supporting context,then jump to a conclusion based on ? your lack of research?

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[–] passthepopcorn 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

These were taken out of context. The Bible shows us that God is a God of order. He tells us to obey the laws of the land. Legal immigrants do this. They should be treated as God says and true Christians have always been some of the first to help them. Illegal aliens should be removed. This is obeying the laws of the land. I do not believe any Christian would object to an illegal alien returning to their homeland and then coming in legally. It is not hypocritical. It is following what the Lord teaches and the laws of the United State. The left loves to take Bible verses out of context and then call us Christians hypocrites. It is they who are the hypocrites because they are spreading false information. My advice is to read the Bible for yourself, then you will know the truth.

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[–] Fritter 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Different if those invaders weren’t from D.U.M.B.S.
Coincidence the Matrix (movie) grew people as a crop, used for energy, and controlled their mind? Sound familiar? Wonder where they derived that idea from. Now comes the 'conspiracy' label. Deeper we go, the more unrealistic it all becomes. The end won't be for everyone. That choice, to know, will be yours. Q

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