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You've made a claim that farms are attacked because they are wealthy - it is not true, because most farmers barely get by. Even if they were wealthy, I've provided you reports of the levels of torture against white people that disprove the claim that "it's just robberies".
You've made a claim that these attacks are theft, not racially motivated assaults. Look above, and look at the witness and perp testimonies - even they clearly say about how their attacks were caused by hatred against whites. I've already presented the fact that the black victims receive far less grievous treatment from the attackers.
The only claim that (maybe) has some merit is about the percentage of land ownership, but even then you're purposefully dismissing the fact that it's been stated that one of the goals of farm attacks is scaring white landowners away and making them sell or leave their property behind. Meanwhile one of the black groups in the country calls for land expropriation without compensation, just when these attacks are taking place. Attacks done exclusively by blacks. Coincidence, I'm certain.
The extreme levels of violence are used to intimidate landowners with the sole purpose of scaring the farmers away from their property to facilitate the land invasion process, argues Neels Moolman of the Department of Criminology at the University of Limpopo. He further argues that the spoils obtained during these attacks can be regarded as a bonus and not the primary aim of the attack.
<but I'm not arguing whether or not the attacks are violent or bad but rather that there is some fight against whites in South Africa.
Yes, indeed, there is "some fight against whites". There is a wave of organized crime aimed overwhelmingly against white minority; the country's government is complicit; the mass media (and local media in SA, as it turns out) is silent about it all. The purpose of this thread is raising awareness about it and trying to spread this message. Meanwhile, you come here, pull out some outdated statistics and try to make "some" point; you try pussyfooting around the subject and trying to create confusion without outright denying the ethnic genocide that is taking place as we speak.
But we're talking about farm owners here not the national population.
So? The higher percentage of white people among land owners doesn't explain the higher level of violence against them. I already proved that robbery is not the primary cause of farm attacks, so it's not because "whites are richer". Besides, what other comparison do you want to make? What else can we compare with farm attacks to prove that the problem is significant and exceeds the other areas of the country? Pics related.
Your claim towards White Afrikaners that "they're not victims" is completely absurd in lieu of the facts I have presented thus far, and it's purposefully provocative and untrue. As such, I believe you should fuck off back to cuckchan, or whatever other hole you've crawled out from.
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There have been a few instances of racially charged attacks, no doubt about that, but on a systemic level, the racial breakdown of murders is more or less proportional to the racial breakdown of farmers. Therefore, there is not sufficient evidence to suggest that racial animosity is a primary motivator in most of these attacks. A more reasonable hypothesis would be that people who attack farms are more likely to treat white farmers with more hostility due to racist sentiments, taking the opportunity to take out their racism when farmers are white, just as how when victims are female, they more often take the opportunity to commit sexual assault. Additionally, I once again point to the disproportionately low number of white victims in general murders; if racial animosity was the primary motivator for farm attacks, you would expect people to also be going after white people off of farms, but instead, black people are disproportionately victimized in murders.
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I say again, most murders in SA are "social fabric" crimes (definition above). Farm murders are not social fabric crimes. Violence against people in SA is heavily romanticized, in the form of encouragement of violence on social media, songs like "Kill the Boer, kill the farmer", and claiming that all white people are racist and responsible for oppression of blacks.
black people are disproportionately victimized in murders.
If they'll be ignored someone might have a semblance of doubt that they have a point. All these claims are easy to disprove, the proofs are there but are just largely ignored.
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It’s amusing, the lengths you shekel-niggers will go to, to justify the disproportionate rates of whites murdered by blacks vs blacks murdered by whites. What do you think the ratio is? 50-1? 500-1? And yet when it comes time to discuss the disparity in the economic and developmental outcomes between black territories and white territories during the second half of the 20th century, your ability to acknowledge black responsibility for their own lack of achievement is discarded in favor of blaming whitey for not giving the nigger enough free shit.
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You've made a claim that farms are attacked because they are wealthy - it is not true, because most farmers barely get by. Even if they were wealthy, I've provided you reports of the levels of torture against white people that disprove the claim that "it's just robberies".
You've made a claim that these attacks are theft, not racially motivated assaults. Look above, and look at the witness and perp testimonies - even they clearly say about how their attacks were caused by hatred against whites. I've already presented the fact that the black victims receive far less grievous treatment from the attackers.
The only claim that (maybe) has some merit is about the percentage of land ownership, but even then you're purposefully dismissing the fact that it's been stated that one of the goals of farm attacks is scaring white landowners away and making them sell or leave their property behind. Meanwhile one of the black groups in the country calls for land expropriation without compensation, just when these attacks are taking place. Attacks done exclusively by blacks. Coincidence, I'm certain.
<but I'm not arguing whether or not the attacks are violent or bad but rather that there is some fight against whites in South Africa.
Yes, indeed, there is "some fight against whites". There is a wave of organized crime aimed overwhelmingly against white minority; the country's government is complicit; the mass media (and local media in SA, as it turns out) is silent about it all. The purpose of this thread is raising awareness about it and trying to spread this message. Meanwhile, you come here, pull out some outdated statistics and try to make "some" point; you try pussyfooting around the subject and trying to create confusion without outright denying the ethnic genocide that is taking place as we speak.
So? The higher percentage of white people among land owners doesn't explain the higher level of violence against them. I already proved that robbery is not the primary cause of farm attacks, so it's not because "whites are richer". Besides, what other comparison do you want to make? What else can we compare with farm attacks to prove that the problem is significant and exceeds the other areas of the country? Pics related.
Your claim towards White Afrikaners that "they're not victims" is completely absurd in lieu of the facts I have presented thus far, and it's purposefully provocative and untrue. As such, I believe you should fuck off back to cuckchan, or whatever other hole you've crawled out from.
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There have been a few instances of racially charged attacks, no doubt about that, but on a systemic level, the racial breakdown of murders is more or less proportional to the racial breakdown of farmers. Therefore, there is not sufficient evidence to suggest that racial animosity is a primary motivator in most of these attacks. A more reasonable hypothesis would be that people who attack farms are more likely to treat white farmers with more hostility due to racist sentiments, taking the opportunity to take out their racism when farmers are white, just as how when victims are female, they more often take the opportunity to commit sexual assault. Additionally, I once again point to the disproportionately low number of white victims in general murders; if racial animosity was the primary motivator for farm attacks, you would expect people to also be going after white people off of farms, but instead, black people are disproportionately victimized in murders.
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I say again, most murders in SA are "social fabric" crimes (definition above). Farm murders are not social fabric crimes. Violence against people in SA is heavily romanticized, in the form of encouragement of violence on social media, songs like "Kill the Boer, kill the farmer", and claiming that all white people are racist and responsible for oppression of blacks.
Now you're just embarrassing yourself.
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If they'll be ignored someone might have a semblance of doubt that they have a point. All these claims are easy to disprove, the proofs are there but are just largely ignored.
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It’s amusing, the lengths you shekel-niggers will go to, to justify the disproportionate rates of whites murdered by blacks vs blacks murdered by whites. What do you think the ratio is? 50-1? 500-1? And yet when it comes time to discuss the disparity in the economic and developmental outcomes between black territories and white territories during the second half of the 20th century, your ability to acknowledge black responsibility for their own lack of achievement is discarded in favor of blaming whitey for not giving the nigger enough free shit.
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