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[–] 19317163? ago 

and at the usual ranges of engagement in CQB the greater stopping power of 5.56 doesn't matter much in comparison to 9x19.

Dumb. Soft points will fuck someone's shit up, immensely more devastating than even a good bonded core JHP 9mm

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[–] 19317158? ago 

I'd like to while you bring up valid points, it's not accurate to suggest that South Africa is going to be bushland, since it's mostly desert. On that note, that's where my initial point was, 5.56 as a rifleman's use in the open areas and urban areas and 7.62Soviet to be used in the bushin a fire fight, it's much easier to pin down enemies if you have a caliber that is lightweight and will allow an insurgent to carry more of that type of ammunition. With a DM, of course 7.62NATO would be an absolute necessity

The problem we must contend with is the availability of ammunition and the type. It's likely that there are AK47's and caches of soviet ammo buried throughout Africa including South Africa, but it's been forgotten about. 5.56 is also going to be more plentiful than either 7.62 Soviet OR NATO because of it's use in the SANDF and SAPS. My point being that each cartridge will be useful in some respect, but in different areas. It's best to take these things into consideration when planning any operation whether it's to initiate or repulse an attack.

On that note, it's unlikely we're going to see submachine guns, although the portuguese paras used them in their fireteams during their colonial wars

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[–] 19317156? ago 

Everything is a trade off. M4/5.56 is never going to be optimal, but it's going to be capable in most situations. Calling it an abomination reveals you as an armchair general.

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[–] 19317159? ago 

I think he's trolling us, anon

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[–] 19317157? ago 

I called it an abomination because it tries to be good at everything but comes short at it.