[–] Antiracist10 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Society is better when it's more religious.
I'll GRANT this.
The people are happier and the crimes are much less extreme. In fact, one of the reasons the West has flourished is because of Christianity.
I'll GRANT this.
Atheism is responsible for the mass murders of communism.
I'll GRANT this!
It has killed more people than anything else.
I'll GRANT this!
What more thinking do I have to do?
You have to think clearly about cosmological, ontological, teleological, and mereological arguments.
How do you justify the poor track record of Atheism where crimes against humanity are concerned?
It's not my job to justify atheism's poor track record where crimes against humanity are concerned. I can GRANT that atheism has done such and such, or will lead to such and such. NONE of that weighs AT ALL on the truth of theological propositions. As I've explained again and again, which you refuse to listen to: THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TRUTH AND UTILITY!!
Something can be FALSE and have GREAT EFFECTS!!
Something can be TRUE and have TERRIBLE EFFECTS!!
You can't weigh the truth of something by its consequences!! Get that through your head!!
[–] 16tons [S] 1 point -1 points 0 points (+0|-1) ago
Do I? What good are they?
[–] Antiracist10 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Any good theist ought maintain the distinction between truth and utility.
The rational basis of theology comes from those arguments, not from appeal to consequences.