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[–] 18765288? ago 

The (((media))) always portrays it as a false choice between no vaccines and the 100+ recommended by your insurance company.

Find yourself a competent pediatrician who will give the basics (MMR, polio for babies, others as they get older, the way it was done foe years) but not excess shots.

This (((measles outbreak))) is from French kikes, BTW.

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[–] 18751108? ago 

Lets get some medical scientists talking about the dangers of Vaccines now.

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[–] 18744895? ago 

trust the government goy, don't examine what we put in vaccines.

Ideally, vaccines can be helpful, and so can government. But we're not talking about ideals here.

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[–] 18765289? ago 

That first factoid is being violently censored on Kikebook BTW.

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[–] 18744896? ago 

It amazes me that anyone would possibly think this post is portraying an argument that has merits.

By and large the anti-vax argument does not significantly argue against the efficacy of vaccines. There may be some back and forth about if the immunity percentages advertised are actually accurate and not bumped by 10% or so, but for the most part that is an incredibly small part of the discussion.

Larger than that is the discussion of just how much of a threat those diseases are: The common statement here is how Measles (everyone's favorite go-to) is less deadly than being put under by Anastasia. So next time you have a kid who needs to have their wisdom teeth taken out, you know what to do.

However, that too is only the most minor detail of the entire subject.

The main discussion is, and always will be, the side effects. There are a vast multitude of disorders and syndromes that exist today in far higher levels than historic records indicate they ever did before, and many relatively common ones simply did not exist before 1930.

Of course, there are plenty of Epidemiological studies on those thing, but the problem is that epidemiology is the study of how to fudge your numbers to get the result you want by excluding certain populations or groups or shaping what you are comparing. Pretty much every study on the subject is complete horse shit and no more reliable than all those scientific studies from the 40s and 50s that said Lead in gasoline was perfectly safe. The obstacle to true science on the subject is time and ethics, so at the end of the day its a hung jury.

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[–] 18744899? ago 

By and large the anti-vax argument does not significantly argue against the efficacy of vaccines. There may be some back and forth about if the immunity percentages advertised are actually accurate and not bumped by 10% or so, but for the most part that is an incredibly small part of the discussion.

Right. One common argument I hear from anti-vaxxers is that the FDA approves it so it must be bad. Basically circular reasoning bullshit. What’s so ironic about this argument is that many anti-vaxxers believe in homeopathy (there is no scientific evidence that this stuff works, btw), and yet homeopathic medicine is actually FDA-approved. And besides, the FDA approving of something doesn’t mean shit. Even if they’re profit-driven, that’s what you get under capitalism.

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[–] 18744925? ago 

Right. One common argument I hear from anti-vaxxers is that the FDA approves it so it must be bad. Basically circular reasoning bullshit. What’s so ironic about this argument is that many anti-vaxxers believe in homeopathy (there is no scientific evidence that this stuff works, btw), and yet homeopathic medicine is actually FDA-approved.

Those aren't the same thing nigger.

The former is saying it's good because the FDA approves it.

The latter is NOT saying it's good because the FDA approves it.

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[–] 18744902? ago 

Honestly I see government support to be completely meaningless on the subject for a very simple reason:

If I were in the shoes of the government and I knew, without a doubt, that vaccines did cause whatever life-changing negative condition in 3% of cases: I would cover up the evidence and endorse them.

Ignore our cynicism about that for a moment, the job of the government, supposedly, is to care about what is good for the whole. So with that as a value-set, vaccines would have to be incredibly dangerous before recommending against them because the danger is only to the individual while the benefit is to the whole.

To put it simply and comically: Even if I knew a vaccine carries with it a 5% chance of immediate painful death, I would support my neighbor's family getting it. It'll make me 1% less likely to pick up whatever disease because they'd be immune and I'm not the one rolling the dice of death.

So with all that in mind, its safe to say that government endorsement means basically nothing. I wouldn't call it a negative since I don't really see any reason to do so.

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[–] 18751071? ago 

and yet homeopathic medicine is actually FDA-approved.

That is a lie.

There are no FDA-approved products labeled as homeopathic; this means that any product labeled as homeopathic is being marketed in the U.S. without FDA evaluation for safety or effectiveness.

https://www.fda.gov/drugs/information-drug-class/homeopathic-products

https://archive.fo/U8Isd

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[–] 18755793? ago 

FDA approving of something doesn’t mean shit. Even if they’re profit-driven, that’s what you get under capitalism.

The FDA is run by people who leave the employ of a pharmaceutical company with an agenda, approve whatever they were told to approve and then leave the FDA to return to an elevated position at the pharmaceutical company. They are a corrupt, nepotistic group that subverted a system that was meant to be protecting the citizens of the United States. Sound familiar?

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[–] 18751082? ago 

tfw no Anastasia to be put under by

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[–] 18759730? ago 

underrated. I kek'd audibly.

>>13302852

as to the OP, and all the other ignorant tards in this thread…

vaccination is a tool that ought to have been used sparingly, and was. some kids are more susceptible to the negative side-effects, which is why the other 98% were vaccinated so the few who could be harmed didn't have to be. this was all fine and well while countries were producing their own vaccinations, but when (((globalism))) took over, the West started outsourcing its drug production to shitholes like China and India (just like everything else). surprise surprise, kids start getting sick, because shitskins can't into biotech, and just as with all other products consumed by the West today, industry caters to the lowest common denominator - ie, pumping out shitty mass-produced products.

not only that, but diseases which had been eradicated in the West are now making a comeback because of mass-scale migrations from countries populated by illiterate shitskins who fuck monkeys and eat dead relatives. the vaccination protocols for each disease had been planned to taper off once said disease was eradicated in the West. the point is, vaccines were always a temporary solution to a problem that never should have become a permanent issue, but just like everything else in clown world (((they))) made sure to keep the West sick and in a constant state of inflammation so the vaccination protocols over time poison the goyim with sub-par products.

vaccines are a tool - nothing more, nothing else. if you make them in-house, in your home country, to the strictest degree of regulation and control, and then use them sparingly (ie., not on kids with genetically weak neurological systems), then you can easily wipe out multiple transferable diseases and obviate vaccines themselves after a few decades. which is exactly the plan before (((capitalists))) started importing shitskins and outsourcing drug production. and before anyone calls me a pharma shill, know that the elites purchase private vaccines from Swiss and French drug companies, while they import Indian and Chinese and Malasyian garbage for the masses.

TL;DR: y'all are fucking retarded. I love you guys, but don't opine on subjects you know shit-all about

t. molebiofag

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[–] 18759073? ago 

Best post in this entire thread

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[–] 18751102? ago 

Here you go.

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[–] 18770082? ago 

Don't worry, Anastasia will find you whether you like it or not

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[–] 18745327? ago 

The only disease on your list that people are still vaccinated for is tetanus. What are you smoking?

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[–] 18765274? ago 

modern plumbing and municipal waste/pest management lead to all these diseases disappearing it was not vaccines

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[–] 18755792? ago 

So

Stop doing this, you retard.

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[–] 18751080? ago 

Who the fuck gets a vaccine for bat rabbies? The fact that shit is the best example you could come up says a lot. I'm sure it never even occurred to you that, a fucking kidney transplant often doesn't work.

You're a child OP who knows nothing of science or medicine. If your faggot ass ever somehow manages to have children, then you go right ahead and get them 70+ vaccines.

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[–] 18751091? ago 

Tetanus is the only relevant one. It's a painful infection and even then only 10% of cases are fatal.

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[–] 18751103? ago 

If you're retarded. Tetanus needs to live on or in blood or feces. It's only a risk if you live on a farm. Further the tetanus only turns into it's deadly form in an environment lacking oxygen.

Let the wound bleed, the bleeding prevents it from entering the body, flushing the wound with saline water will also help, and unless you've hit a major artery (which you need a surgeon anyway) then just let the wound breathe.

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