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[–] Will0890 ago 

Joo's and Niggers. = Culture Vultures

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[–] New_Posedion 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

This is some good fucking detective work. I’ve got to look into this myself but this is gold.

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[–] SparklingWiggle 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

6 gorillion died for that pen.

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[–] Critterz 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Thought she used a fountain pen not a ballpoint.

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[–] KendellTellsLies 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Well that says that the Biro brothers filled their first British patent in June 1938, which is actually 4 years before she supposedly started the diary not 1. It also says they fled Germany in 1941 for Argentina, which puts them in germany (presumably making pens) up until a year before the supposed start of the diary. They don't file the second patent in Argentina until 1943, a year after the diaries supposed start, so there's no way she could have had one of those pens. However there is still that small window between the first patent in 1938 and the Biro brothers fleeing Germany in 1941 when Anne could have potentially had access to a ball point pen.

Now I don't know shit about ball point pens, I'm 100% going off this post, so you could get into well, even if she did get a pen in 1941 right before the brothers fled Germany, did the thing last a year plus for her to write the diary with, was the diary written with/ did they potentially have more than one pen, seems unlikely as they would have been considered a novelty or luxury at first. Were these pens refilable? I know I can't keep a ball point pen for a year now, let alone write an entire diary with one pen. If it was refilable, where was she getting the ink from while supposedly in hiding, ink doesn't seem like the kind of thing you stockpile for an emergency.

I'm not saying Anne Frank had a pen (or even existed honestly, I don't know that for a fact) I'm just saying there's not a whole lot here that actually proves anything and the anon contradicts his own evidence in his post. Need a little more than just "She couldn't have had a pen guys, the diary is fake" because just going off what is posted here it seems like yeah, she could have had a pen and you're not doing anyone any favors by pointing it out.

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[–] irradiated_toaster 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

The people who gave here family food could have easily given them some some ink, that is if the pens were refillable, I wonder if you could still find the original patent.

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[–] KendellTellsLies 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

It seems like the kind of thing that should be public record, as long as it wasn't conveniently misplaced.

Edit: Can't find a picture of it but the first commercially successful ball point wasn't until 1945 and it was a refillable pen so i'm assuming the ones before also were. http://www.historyofpencils.com/writing-instruments-history/history-of-ballpoint-pens/

Interestingly the Biro Brothers didn't patent the first ball point, just the first that worked fairly well so if she was using one of the first ball points it seems like the writing should have been smudged and hard to read.

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[–] pimplepeter 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

dayum. EXPOSE IT.

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[–] expose 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

the holocaust is the new jewish religion and it's just as made up.