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[–] BoiseNTheHood 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Wonder how many of them are his "underpaid" shills working for $12/hour.

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[–] radamhadameal 1 point 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

This is the best they could do to smear Bernie? That really says more about how great he is than anything else, that this is the worst anyone can say about him.

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[–] edistojim 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

If you are a supporter of the $15 minimum wage, you should pay your people $15 per hour. Intern or not, doesn't matter if you own a ditch digging service, if its something you are campaigning for, then don't be a hypocrite and talk out of both sides of your mouth. He wants MickyDs to do it but doesn't believe he needs to…..typical politician , thats for thee, not for me.

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[–] ShadowMongoose ago 

Interns are a tightly defined class of workers that are not employees and are thus explicitly exempt from minimum wage laws, just as servers (waitresses/waiters), and other tipped employees are exempt from minimum wage laws (though being actual employees they must be paid a minimum commonly referred to as the "waiter wage").

Any new laws regarding minimum wages will almost certainly maintain those exemptions, with interns still being defined as non-employees that are not due any wage, and tipped employees being paid a lower (though possibly higher than current) minimum.

So unless you have some evidence that his future bill includes a requirement to pay interns, and to do so at the new minimum wage, you are talking out of your ass.

Interns are an exception by law, just because you want to deny that fact doesn't make it so.

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[–] jallab 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Ahaha, shocker!

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[–] Godsmouth 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Is your point that if elected president he would abandon the effort to raise the minimum wage to $15/hr? You have to remember that he is running a campaign that is competing with some of the most well funded candidates ever seen to this point. Clinton's campaign is projected to raise ungodly amounts of money.

I'm curious if you've looked at what the other candidates are paying their interns? Also, you got this right from his website, so at least he is being transparent.

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[–] gosso920 2 points 5 points (+7|-2) ago 

Bernie Sanders: "Do as I say, not as I do."

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[–] jawsgst 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Where did this even come from? Bernie fights for what he believes in, and he actually backs up what he is saying. You know, he did sit with civil rights leaders and actively fought for civil rights. He isn't the do as I say, not as I do type.

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[–] Ishamoridin 1 point 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

Raising the minimum wage will have economic impacts that will make it easier to pay that wage. Paying that wage in an economy that doesn't enforce it and therefore doesn't support it would simply be idiocy.

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[–] NedTaggart ago 

Ok, follow that up and answer me this...

If you double minimum wage, Where does the money come from to pay the employees?

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[–] Ishamoridin ago 

The business will go into the red briefly before the market adapts, but many businesses operate on a deficit for periods of time, they'll just increase their debt a little comparatively. I'm not saying no businesses failure will be attributable to the change, but it's not going to be nearly as significant as it's made out to be unless people go around scaremongering.

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[–] UncontrollableSphere 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

If you double it instantly? Nowhere. Businesses fail. Everyone loses.

If you double it very slowly? Then purchasing power for lower income workers slowly rises, allowing them to spend more, thus increasing profits for businesses, which in turn gives them the ability to pay more when the next minimum wage hike comes.

Prices will rise, but not nearly as much as purchasing power. And the community as a whole will benefit: if someone isn't making enough to properly feed themself, buy clothes, go to the movies, go to restaurants, buy a couch, take transit, or see a dentist, then the community is losing possible revenue. But if they're earning more, then they're able to afford these "luxuries" and funnel much of their increased earnings back into the economy.

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[–] TexasComments [S] 2 points 1 point (+3|-2) ago 

Not when people lose their jobs when businesses can't pay them and stay afloat.

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[–] ShadowMongoose 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Yeah, isn't it incredible that businesses have managed to survive, oh say...

Every minimum wage increase, ever

... Funny that they never seem to have a problem when it comes to the circlejerk of CEO/CO pay. That somehow is never a concern as to the impact it has on the cost of their product.

Even when the issue at hand is CEO's that rode their business into ruin. Nope, bonuses and golden parachutes all around for them.

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[–] toker7 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

It seems this has turned into a minimum wage debate. Lol.

Things to remember about a minimum wage raise:

  1. Some business, especially those which are heavily labor dependent would be spending more on labor costs which would then cut into the profit line. However, labor costs are an above the line deduction which results in most business actually being able to escape a larger tax liability. Depending on the business, this may increase profits, decrease profits, or have a negligible difference. Meaning, no generality regarding the minimum wage impact on business is likely accurate, except that it will not impact all businesses the same.

  2. While an hourly minimum would benefit the working class, history has shown that increased to an hourly minimum wage is a short term fix as inflation continuously decreases wages. Many states have attempted to combat this by tying the minimum hourly wage to inflation and adjust it every year, such as Washington State. However, there are other prosed ways to combat inflations effect on minimum wage as well.

  3. Minimum wage often does not apply to service employees such as waiters and waitresses. For example, living in South Carolina working as a waiter your likely hourly wage is between $2.50 and $4.00 per hour plus tips.

That being said. It is very unlikely that a large amount of people would be put out of work due to a gradual increase in minimum wage because 1. it is not likely to have a detrimental impact on all business, 2. inflation is always decreasing the value of an hourly wage, 3. a minimum wage does not apply to every industry.

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[–] Ishamoridin 1 point 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

This will happen with short-sighted businesses, sure, but higher minimum wage means more consumer spending which means more income for basically every industry that'll be affected by this.

I swear it's like people think money disappears once it's paid to employees.

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[–] FreeSpeachRocks 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Coming soon... Intern at McDonald's... learn how to cook fries and flips hamburgers... we may even teach you to work the drawer...

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[–] ShadowMongoose ago 

Intern is a legally defined and regulated term. You cannot just choose not to pay an employee by calling them an "intern".

There are interns at McDonald's but only for managerial and corporate positions.

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[–] gosso920 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

"I ain't working fries! Gotta work the register! How am I supposed to make any money if I don't work the register??!"

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