Food for thought and to see who did everything possible to go to war
Few quotations
Gen. Robert E. Wood stated at a Senate committee that Churchill had said to him in November 1936,
“Germany is getting too strong, and we must smash her.”
Churchill also stated in the year 1936,
“We will force Hitler into war, whether he wants it or not.”[5]
If one naive reader were to read your input, he'd be convinced that Germany is the originator of about every single aggressive behavior and was first in showing signs of willing conflict. When all lights were green showing that neighboring countries operating as proxies for the Jews were preparing for war. About every single provocation and aggression by the future Allies wouldn't count, some of them literally involving economical aggression or physical damage. These don't count. Only the "warmongering" of Germany is to be noted. Despite the very fact that Hitler, contrary to the Jews' puppets, did not want that war.
Let's just ignore that the League of Nations did everything possible to stop Poland from mistreating Germans. It was perfectly clear, they all knew what was going on.
Czechoslovakia was an obvious spearhead that would be used against Germany. The Sudetenland was a logical piece of land to grab, mostly populated by Germans, and necessary for the military assets that fell into German hands as a consequence. It was a smart move. It was legitimate considering the population living there. What would the Poles say? They too with Ukraine seized some land from the corpse of that artificial "Czechoslovakia". In no way they could hold an annexation against Germany on moral grounds. If we go back to Poland, we see that absolutely nothing was done to save the Germans from atrocities. The Allies foiled all attempts to solve this problem peacefully. They were the biggest hypocrites of the lot.
I'll restate my core point; Going to war with Poland was a mistake. Hitler did lose the war, after all.
So if he had won it would have not been a mistake? Well, that's one of the flimsiest criteria one could retain against the legitimacy if not necessity of a conflict, especially when said conflict's outcome was not a foregone conclusion.
Besides, you go from "starting the war" to "going to war with Poland", which conveniently removes the US very real moves against Germany.
I'm not sure where we're going with this. You may be bitter that Germany lost, I don't know, I could understand that.
They clearly showed their will to go to war by breaking the Ten Year non-Aggression Plan formerly signed between Germany and Poland under Marshall Pilsudski.
That and the warmongering and provocative speeches held by Polish authorities.
If one will claim the official declaration counts as identifying the starter of a war, then you need to consider Britain and France as starters.
They clearly showed their will to go to war by breaking the Ten Year non-Aggression Plan formerly signed between Germany and Poland under Marshall Pilsudski.
You mean the one Hitler revoked on April 28th?
That and the warmongering and provocative speeches held by Polish authorities.
Made in response to German ones.
If one will claim the official declaration counts as identifying the starter of a war, then you need to consider Britain and France as starters.
Maybe so, but if we're interested in truth we'd look at both German and Polish provocations. Not just Polish ones.
I've criticized Polish stubbornness but let's not pretend that Hitler's shit smelled like roses. Remember, just one month before Hitler broke his non-aggression pact with Poland he had invaded and annexed Czechoslovakia in violation of his own promise to respect Czech sovereignty.
You know, up until then it was pretty clear that Hitler just wanted a German state for Germans. But then he annexed a nation that was not German after promising not to.
I want you to ask yourself; How does this look to Poland when Hitler comes to them demanding not only German land back, but a corridor 1 kilometer wide across yoru own land in exchange for Hitler's "promise" (for real bro) to respect Polish borders… and then he breaks his own non-aggression pact with you. What would you do? Just hand over your land for nothing?
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This is such a gay argument
No amount of arguing "b-but optics don't matter" is going to change this perception right now when action is needed
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Lets get back on topic.
We can discuss about war another time.
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Holy fucking shit my dude read! He was purposely replaced by a puppet and then inact violence against civilizans on dransig, along with british propaganda to go along with it. Not including the fact the Soviets were already invading poland weeks before tje germans. You seriously need to lurk moar.
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