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[–] 17522568? ago 

Tarrant was full-on 14 but not 88

To a normie reading his stuff.

To us however his stance on the JQ is very clear from his answers.

His intent was to being 14 to the forefront of our social consciousness and probably felt introducing 88 memes would distract from that. And he was right because the media would otherwise be able to leverage sympathy for the jew as usual and water down divert demonize and distract from his primary message of 14.

Again this does not suggest he was not 88

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[–] 17522569? ago 

To us however his stance on the JQ is very clear from his answers.

Yes it was. His stance was that he stands with based Israeli jews.

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[–] 17522570? ago 

jews in Israel who are not fucking with whites

Are you implying such a thing exists

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[–] 17522572? ago 

What is best? Should our movement be full on 14 AND 88? Or is 88 holding us back/too much baggage to ever attract normies?

Question; Does waving "88" everywhere accomplish the goal of helping uninitiated White people learn to embrace their natural and healthy ethnocentrism/nationalism?

That is the question.

And you must ask and answer it yourself.

Personally though, I'm of the opinion that while Hitler is fun to talk about, talking about Hitler is relatively not useful when talking to the uninitiated. And for various reasons, Hitler is a potentially divisive figure even among the already initiated.

For instance, I unironically hate people who use Hitler, WW2, and National Socialism to shit on Slavs. I am not a Slav. I have no Slavic blood so far as I know. But I believe that anyone who wants to oppress or exterminate any European brothers for any reason is an enemy of mine.

I don't give a shit that in 1901 the border was over here and now it no longer looks like your Europa Universalis game.

I don't give a shit that 100 years ago [Group A] did [atrocity X] to [Group B]. Get over it. In case you hadn't noticed, none of us will exist in 100 years if things continue like this.

And I don't give a shit about Lebensraum. We have enough food. Those advocating land theft are seeking ONLY the humiliation of Europeans. There is no justifiable reason to steal anyone's land anymore because we already have all the wealth we'd need.

This is why I have moved away from calling myself a National Socialist.

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[–] 17522575? ago 

or instance, I unironically hate people who use Hitler, WW2, and National Socialism to shit on Slavs

Hitler and Natioanal Socialists didn't hate slavs though.

The single most important thing we can do is overturn the holocause myth and vindicate the nazis. We can't move forwards until history is corrected.

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[–] 17522578? ago 

Okay, I really do not want to get in the way of pointing out the lies of the holohoax. Nor do I want to countersignal people pointing out that Hitler didn't hate Poles. You're right. But it's a little more complicated than that.

As you may know, the Germans did indeed ethnically cleanse large regions of Poland of Poles. And they empowered many of their allies such as the Ukrainians to do the same.

Indeed, since many National Socialists here blame Poland for starting the war, it already primes thousands of anons to hate their own brothers in Poland. The truth is a little more complicated than "Poland kill Germans so Hitler hit them!"

The problem arises when you get historically illiterate "National Socialists" who think that it's their duty to despise Poles, Serbs, and often times Russians. They often falsely accuse everyone who argues in favour of Polish existence of "supporting the holocaust!"

This has happened so often that I believe that only some of them are actual shills. I hope I'm wrong but I fear that a large number of complete morons actually want to slaughter Poles and Serbs for the events of WW2

Another problem that keeps propping up is that many so called "National Socialists" care more about fucking political borders than actual people. But a Nation is the People. Anyway, they want to recreate the borders of Germany in 1900 because they've played way too much HOI4. And they use Hitler, National Socialism, and WW2 to defend this insanity. Naturally this involves mass slaughter of expulsion of Poles.

I sincerely hope that these disgusting traitors are all just shills. Maybe it's all just one kike with 40 different IPs he cycles through. But I've been here too long to believe that everyone is a 130 IQ exemplary asset to his race.

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[–] 17524979? ago 

Hitler and Natioanal Socialists didn't hate slavs though.

hate is maybe too strong of the word. but hitler as chancellor of germany at the time did want to conquer parts of eastern europe and soviet union with intention of ethnically cleansing this areas. in long run it was intended to populate this areas with germans. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensraum

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[–] 17527906? ago 

I think your are ill informed brother. To assume the war was Saxons against slavs is incorrect. Do your research to find out what the make up of the Soviet union ready to invade Europe was. Not whites!.

Our people are becoming more and more decadent.

It's also wrong for people to assume that Catholics are Christans, they are not.

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[–] 17527915? ago 

To assume the war was Saxons against slavs is incorrect.

of course it was not saxons against slavs. hitler was not saxon

Do your research to find out what the make up of the Soviet union ready to invade Europe was.

soviet union was not ready to invade europe. it was discussed earlier on topic.

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[–] 17533141? ago 

>>12989092

till history is corrected

You know it not only hitler and national socialist thst we have to correct it also includes the france revolution and american revolution and more.

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[–] 17522573? ago 

hitler is old and genetic research is unveiling facts about European origins that make many of their beliefs obsolete. Interesting figure and inspiring in many ways but he is of his era and it doesn't directly relate to what we're trying to do now.

If you look at Father Coughlin and and Huey Long in the USA you see similar personality traits and oratory techniques gaining similar traction. It happened in both countries like a kind of convergent evolution. I think this was a function of mass video and radio first being unleashed upon large populations. Now that the popular consciousness it probably wont be repeated, and the media environment of today doesn't allow for it.

He was a great fighter of bolshevism and deserves respect and admiration for his leadership skills and vision but it's not really related to what we're working on now, which is I think most agree a pan-European ethnic movement that's not just Germanic.

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[–] 17522580? ago 

What is best? Should our movement be full on 14 AND 88? Or is 88 holding us back/too much baggage to ever attract normies?

attract normies

you will never attract normies with anything. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_uV0mB5FZk

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[–] 17522584? ago 

Tarrant is a poor mans joker who wanted to set the world on fire. He is not pro white, or pro right. He just wanted to see everyone at each others throats.

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[–] 17524942? ago 

Just like a thread the other night said, WWII and the 88 question is actually very red-pilling, because it shows how one man had fought for Europe, and how he lost. I think before anything, actually educating the normies, even some 'enemies' about Hitler and NSDAP could be beneficial if they have a mind of their own, that is open.

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[–] 17534126? ago 

Were natsoc into knights and chivalry now that I think about it from their aesthetics.

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[–] 17524944? ago 

The 88 is presently a huge distraction and obstacle to the 14

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[–] 17524946? ago 

Hitler, the man responsible for spilling the most european blood, is praised by europhiles

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[–] 17524948? ago 

It's more complicated than that. Hitler did a lot of good things for his nation, like revitalizing the economy, preserving their cultural traditions, and ending central banking practices. Churchill is on record saying that he was going to force Hitler into a war one way or another. Also the Nazis effectively stopped the USSR from spreading further east and taking over more of western Europe which wouldn't have been good.

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[–] 17524981? ago 

Hitler did a lot of good things for his nation

He sent an entire generation of his countrymen to kill his fellow whites.

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