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[–] 17599570? ago 

Britain and France actively sought an alliance with Soviet Union for the explicit purpose of attacking Germany and Poland

And they rejected them for an "alliance" with Hitler to attack Poland.

What exactly was the point you were trying to convey?

Obvious non-military.

a totally clueless arm chair general.

I'm sure you're a former special ops super-soldier with over 300 confirmed kills.

Somehow I suspect your military education comes mostly from videogames.

it is a total stupid idea to let the Soviet war machine gain speed to steamroll towards west. You wont be able to stop them.

Poland did and Germany crushed them in the early phases of the war. Can you come up with one reason why Germany and Poland could not have stopped them again?

the Red Army was known to be several times bigger

Bigger =/= better.

The Gleiwitz radio-station attack is a total made up story by the allies

Alright then. What do you claim was the reason for the invasion?

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[–] 17599572? ago 

>>13010770

Britain and France actively sought an alliance with Soviet Union for the explicit purpose of attacking Germany and Poland

What exactly was the point you were trying to convey?

Britain and France actively sought an alliance with Soviet Union for the explicit purpose of attacking Germany

And they rejected them for an "alliance" with Hitler to attack Poland.

The Soviets were no dummies, Stalin the least with his spies in the British government.

Of course did Stalin know that the British plan was to pit Germany against the SU. That was no secret, that was published by all communist media of the time. Mkay?

The point is Britain and France sought war with Germany before Germany was at war with Poland, the alleged reason British and French declaration of war.

Another point is that while Poland was “invited” in the alliance against Germany, it was expect from Poland to let in the Soviet for the attack against Germany. Poland polity refused.

So anyway you look at it, your “peace loving” British, French cabal was lusting to go to war with Germany.

Poland did

The Red Army of the civil war era was primitive equipped, while Poland had for the time modern French arms, still they barely could stop them. That is the reason the Poles talk of the “Miracle on the Vistula”.

Germany crushed them in the early phases of the war.

When they hadn’t fully mobilized and were ready.

Can you come up with one reason why Germany and Poland could not have stopped them again?

Only an idiot would wait for his enemy to marshal his whole strength to attack.

I'm sure you're a former special ops super-soldier with over 300 confirmed kills.

Your right, my speciality is detecting bull shit before stepping in.

The Gleiwitz radio-station attack is a total made up story by the allies

Alright then. What do you claim was the reason for the invasion?

Oh the old jewish tactic to repeat the already answered question.

The reason for Germany to go to war with Poland were Poland's continued and permanent aggression in addition to Poland occupying large tracts of Germany.

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[–] 17599579? ago 

Britain and France sought war with Germany before Germany was at war with Poland

Why'd they let him annex the Sudetenland then? Or Memel or Austria or Saarland or the Rhineland?

See, you're ignoring the fact that trying to fight a war that your public doesn't understand is risky. It's important to make the public feel that their cause is righteous. It's a tough sell to say that German land should not be in Germany. But why should Polish land be in Germany? Especially after what happened to Czechia.

Would you trust a man who annexed a nation after promising not to do so in exchange for X-majority land returned to his nation?

I wouldn't.

The Red Army was defeated because they were unprepared.

FIghting their way through Poland would have given Germany plenty of time to prepare AND ensured that they were viewed by all as the defenders of Europe from communism rather than an imperialist monster trying to steal everyone's land.

Only an idiot would wait for his enemy to marshal his whole strength to attack.

You must hate Otto Von Bismark.

Considering that Bismark united Germany and defeated France, I'd say he knew more about diplomacy and war than you.

Poland was aggressive to Germany so Hitler needed to invade

Germany was aggressive to Poland. Should Poland have invaded?

Poland occupying large tracts of Germany.

And this I think is your real reason for disliking Poland so much. I suspect that you're one of those people that believe that all the land that Prussia conquered in the 19th century should be German again despite the clear Polish majority. Though please do prove me wrong.

Danzig was German. No question. But most of the rest of western Poland was Polish majority.

If it's wrong for Czechs to rule German majority Sudetenland, it is wrong for Germans to rule Polish lands.

Hitler claimed that he only wanted to bring all German lands into a united Germany. I hold him to his word.