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[–] 17522553? ago 

We cannot blame them for everything. In all of recorded history mankind only ever took, with little to nor regard to any form of balance. Our progress forward was always away from nature, without realizing that it sustains our existence. Every tree or animal taking out has a consequence on everything, and exploiting this without understanding the importance of the natural laws is by definition suicidal. And we are the ones given a consciousness, we are able to understand this, so there are no excuses.

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[–] 17522558? ago 

If that was the case then was becoming christain a mistake? I mean the pagans at least the germans were worshipping nature and from what I read from titus (might be someone else) on how they are saying that they tend to be more morally right than they were, but was it because pagans or the germans back then were closer to nature than the romans were?

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[–] 17524950? ago 

was becoming christain a mistake?

It was corrupted from the beginning. In short. Religions are solely human creations to enslave mankind to the written laws in exchange for empty promises. The natural traits superstition, faith and morality were hijacked into a lie, all the religious scriptures are tales of morality based on natural law, and the principal of God describes nature itself.

All religions were initially created to control large masses of humans with as little violence as possible. The trick to achieve this is to use the natural human traits superstition, faith and morality to enslave them to written laws in exchange for empty promises. This sounds evil, but it's necessary to enforce morality, otherwise human freedom, in a competitive civilization, will always end in bloodshed. The scriptures were templates to teach law and order, the crucifix was the symbolism that binds their loyalty, and to quell the human hunger for an undisputed leader they used superstition to sell the concept of a God. The corruption of this doctrine can be found in the laws, namely the ten commandments. All of these are against the law of nature and impossible to uphold for human beings. Either directly or indirectly they will constantly break these laws, which makes them either obligated to endless scripture studies, or they infinitely make up excuses for themselves as to why they broke the law. Both ways create passive human beings who are not of help/less of help for their communities. Here is an example for the biggest commandment (Thou shalt not kill)…completely against natural law and absolutely absurd in the lights of human history. And even if you not do the killing yourself, everyone is in one way or another indirectly supporting the murder of living creatures, be it the billions of animals that get tortured and killed every year, or the child slave labor that dies in the mines of Africa to accumulate the resources for your phone screens. And if you think you can buy yourself out of responsibility with donations, you're actively funding the jewish crime racket that is global poverty, which is exploited for human trafficking, drug+organ smuggling, tax evasion, weaponized migration and to fleece wealthy suckers out of donation money. In short…Christianity makes you a docile slave that puts his believes above the health of your collective/community, which makes you wide open to exploitation from outside groups.

So the concept of religion is based on indoctrination to control the masses. The thousands of years of worshiping god, putting faith into symbolism and upholding false moralities have influenced the structure of human thinking. Originally the term atheist was coined to throw everyone who didn't fall for religious indoctrination into one basket, so that the believers could attack them. Fast forward and today's atheists are so corrupted by their heritage, that they are the most susceptible followers of idolatry. They worship the gods and symbols of capitalism like the most fanatic fundamentalists.

Summary…Religion can work short term to prevent chaos from breaking out, but it can't be tied to human laws that corrupt natural ones, and furthermore it has to aim and teaching the knowledge of understanding the natural laws. It's like teaching kids with symbols and false idols how to behave (morality), but sooner or later the truth must replace the goodwill lie.