[–] Tallest_Skil 4 points 25 points 29 points (+29|-4) ago (edited ago)
Currently there are two black and white opinions. They are:
It doesn’t take much to realize with such an important medical related issue that those opinions are equally dangerous. If one is to properly evaluate the safety of vaccines, one must remember there are thousands of different vaccines around the world today. They are developed and made by dozens of different companies and researchers in dozens of different countries with thousands of different rules and regulations regarding to vaccine manufacturing.
Each vaccine is made for a different purpose, for dozens of diseases, and for different patients. It is impossible for all vaccines to be either good or bad. Due to statistical probability, it is fair to say some vaccines are definitely good and some are definitely bad. Some are made with noble intentions, others with sinister intentions (profit being an example). Some are made to combat genuine threats, others made when they don’t really need to be. Some are made under the best conditions, others made on the bottom dollar. If we can all accept these basic truths, we may be able to start having a decent conversation about vaccines.
There are zero arguments for vaccines–as a concept–being “bullshit.” There are great arguments for why flu (and other fast-mutating infectious disease) vaccines are bullshit. There are lots of great arguments for why vaccines shouldn’t be given in “bulk” shots all at once, or with large needles in an infant’s thigh, and so on. There are lots of great arguments for why vaccines don’t need to be given with their various contaminants and “preservatives.”
Vaccines expose us to weakened–or literally dead–parts of infectious agents. This is like showing a bunch of nationalists videos of invading forces and how to identify them. It gets your immune system ready and capable of identifying the threat. The flu and other fast mutating viruses change enough in the time it takes to make a mass vaccine that the vaccine is no longer effective against the current strain. The vaccine also weakens your immune system temporarily, making it busy–in essence, the opposite effect of what the vaccine should be doing–and they are recommended at times when your immune system should not be overloaded like that. Bulk shots suffer from the same problem, as well as often being contaminated and loaded heavily with preservatives. Large injections cause undue pain and stress for children. (multi-shots) Preservatives don’t need to be in most vaccines if they are stored properly. None of them will kill you, but all of them are unnecessarily exposing you to chemicals that don’t need to be in your body in any amount. Contaminants also can be entirely removed from vaccines, but are not because of the cost profit motive.
Vaccines can prevent certain diseases and save, possibly, millions of lives. This is true. The issue is not whether or not vaccines can be safe and effective. They can. The issue is not whether or not they "work.” They usually do. The issue is whether or not the vaccines created by certain drug companies are safe and effective. The evidence suggests that they are not. Certain companies are either cutting corners or intentionally poisoning people. Vaccines are given to babies and small children when their brains are at their most vulnerable to developmental disruption.
Most vaccines contain mercury and aluminum as, supposedly, stabilizing agents. Aluminum and mercury both cause nerve damage and disruption to proper nerve growth and development. This, alone, is a five alarm red-alert level of problem that should be being investigated immediately. Instead, anyone who questions the safety of vaccines is criticized. If they are in a position in the medical industry, they will likely lose their job or lose advancement opportunity. Or be killed.
Also, in many countries it is illegal to refuse vaccinating children. Now, ✡who✡ in power would be interested in creating a lower class population with brain damage to make them confused, have lower critical thinking skills, and be less intelligent? Hmm. Maybe the same people who put fluoride–a neurotoxin–into the water supply, atrazine (a herbicide) into the water supply (it has powerful feminizing effects), pushed “the pill” onto entire generations of women and teenagers, which both causes brain damage in the user and feminizing chemical runoff in their urine that is not properly removed by water treatment plants, and so on and so forth. Almost like they want us stupid and emasculated so we won’t fight back as they kill us all off with degeneracy, feminism, miscegenation, and nonwhite immigration. Almost like it’s part of the ongoing genocide of white America and the white world.
There is something EXTREMELY suspicious about the vaccine industry. Again, “healthy” vaccines should be possible. But, in their current form, are vaccines causing harmful side-affects like brain damage leading to autism and other such things? Yes, they are.
[–] Tallest_Skil 1 point 1 point 2 points (+2|-1) ago
It will obviously depend on your own country, but here’s the US schedule.
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[–] Ken_bingo2 1 point 2 points 3 points (+3|-1) ago
Welcome to the Hegelian Dialectic.
My argument is that until we know all the biological mechanism for everything as well as a complete understanding of the systems, people should make informed risk analysis based decisions. And governments have no sovereignty over peoples bodies is a Truth We hold to be self evident.
[–] Ifckstacy 0 points 14 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago
Top teir post. I usually avoid the autism arguement when debating the vaccine issue, but this is gonna come in handy.