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[–] 17045156? ago 

Oh stop. Fake Delta zero? What if it was faked? It's still a signal.Duh?

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[–] 17043342? ago 

How do you fake a delta?

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[–] 17040337? 3 points 0 points (+3|-3) ago  (edited ago)

Read through this, and cut your losses. All of the following is sourced with objective, verifiable facts.

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Gitmo expansion before/after Trump:

Qanon circulates a before/after picture claiming that Trump has expanded Gitmo, in preparation for thousands of prisoners. Everything in the after section was in place by 2008, & the prison facilities shown (Camp 5 and 6) can only house around 250 combined.

https://i.imgur.com/MVsr7Fd.jpg

Upgrades are taking place at Gitmo, but they are all support, and most at the large Naval base. No prison cell expansion has occurred under DJT, and none are expected, now that the Dems control the House. Maximum available prisoner housing: ~250

https://www.stripes.com/news/deteriorating-facilities-draw-scrutiny-as-gitmo-eyed-for-possible-prisoner-influx-1.568062

Gitmo prison barges:

There are no prison barges headed to Gitmo. The post that circulated a little while back was a mistake. It contained 2 ships... 1 was a NYC prison permanently parked in NYC, and the other was a Navy barracks ship.

https://i.imgur.com/j8M3lCv.png

https://wmerthon6.wixsite.com/website-1/home/qanon-prison-barges-debunk

70k Sealed Indictments:

This article examines the numbers in depth, and proves that the claim is false. The Qanon research team is misrepresenting the numbers on the chart, and making false comparisons to incomplete data from 13 years ago. There aren't 70k sealed indictments... that's an irrefutable fact.

The article also examined several high profile states/districts (like all of CA, DC, and CO), and found that when properly compared to recent history, the current sealed activity in the court system does not appear unusual. The article is fully sourced to PACER.

https://wmerthon6.wixsite.com/website-1/home/comprehensive-analysis-of-the-50k-sealed-indictment-claim

Q stating that the sealed indictment chart was 'good tracking', and claiming that there are 50k+ sealed indictments:

The chartmakers recently changed the title of the chart from 'indictments' to 'cases', because it was untruthful. The person that maintains the spreadsheet of their data now concedes that only around 2k are likely indictments, and there is no proof that amount is unusual.

Q said the chart was 'good tracking' even though it was a misrepresentation of the numbers, and had several glaring mistakes on it (like saying 1077 was average). He also claimed there were 50k+ sealed indictments, when the team now concedes that there are likely less than 2k.

https://i.imgur.com/STlAGMI.png

https://i.imgur.com/A5s5OiO.png

Human Trafficking arrests at record levels:

This graphic is circulated which claims that Trump has overseen a dramatic increase in human trafficking arrests:

https://i.imgur.com/s1HvCNz.pngPNG

The numbers are a false comparison. All of the Obama year numbers are from the yearly ICE Human Trafficking report, while the Trump number is supposedly a compilation of news articles, global numbers, and additional categories. Good luck finding the true source for the Trump number.

It's mostly irrelevant, because we know the Obama numbers are all from the ICE report, and we now have the 2017 ICE report that we can use for a true apples/apples comparison. It reported 1602 arrests for Trump in 2017, which was less than Obama achieved in 2016, and was also less than 3 of the 4 previous years under Obama. The 2018 report has not been released yet.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trump-working-end-human-trafficking/

This is the corrected graphic:

https://i.imgur.com/YDyMRlo.png

Additionally, this bill was passed while Obama was in office (2015). It establishes a fund to be used to help combat Human Trafficking, during the period FY2016-FY2019. In other words, the bill passed during Obamas tenure enhances the ability of Trump to arrest traffickers presently.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/178

This excerpt explains when/how the funds are to be used:

https://i.imgur.com/wi1MMlE.pngPNG

Downtown L.A. miltary drill/raid:

Several military helicopters were filmed in downtown L.A. landing in the streets, and moving between buildings. Many posts have been made claiming that this was a secret military raid carried out in downtown LA. The 'proof' is tons of comments from ex-military and armchair military, claiming that an exercise like this would never be carried out in a downtown civilian area. They say the threat to civilians/property is too high, and that these drills would only be performed in mock urban areas that the military has constructed.

That is completely false, as there are dozens of articles and videos that show similar drills taking place:

Blackhawk landing next to a parking garage, with people on the roof watching it.

Helicopters in downtown area... explosion heard @ 2:47.

Multiple blackhawks flying in downtown Miami.

In regards to the broken windows in L.A. (on a vacant building about to be torn down), damage to civilian property is not unheard of. During an exercise in Flint MI, a helicopter landing on the roof of a civilian building caused the front of it to partially collapse.

https://www.mlive.com/news/flint/2015/06/military_helicopter_damages_hi.html

Some claim that they wore hazmat suits, and sprayed down the helicopter, which wouldn't be done for a drill. Again, incorrect. Ask anyone that's been in the military if they donned things like chemical gear when practicing certain scenarios. They do. People walk around in full chem gear and gas masks all the time, along with going through decontamination stations, when a base is having a drill. If they were going to conduct an exercise concerning biohazard, they would wear the outfits and go through the motions.

Mass resignations:

There is an informal list of ~7k resignations being maintained, and the narrative is that that amount is unprecedented. This is a false claim, as there is no historical data available to compare that number to. There is no way to know if this amount is high, low, or normal.

The only historical data that exists in regards to resignations, is from this company that tracks US CEO resignations. It shows that 2018 resignations were only 8% higher than in 2014... so not a dramatic increase.

If you compare the total resignations from 2017 and 2018 to the total from 2013 and 2014, it's only a 1% increase.

http://www.challengergray.com/press/press-releases/2018-year-end-ceo-turnover-report-1452-ceos-left-posts-most-recession

2012 Mass arrest blog:

The promise of mass arrests of the cabal has been making the rounds for a while.

Here is a blog post from 2012, where they claim that mass arrests are imminent. They discuss military involvement, EAS messages, and cite recent mass resignations at the time, as proof something was about to happen... they even called it "the Plan".

In the comments you can read people complaining that the promised arrests never happened, and that they were going back to reality. Again... from 2012.

The person that wrote this (David Wilcock) is pushing the Q story heavily, along with the false 70k sealed indictments claim. He is one of the biggest names in the disclosure community, and he makes money by promoting the mass arrest fantasy... both in 2012, and in 2019. Jordan Sather works closely with him.

https://divinecosmos.com/davids-blog/1043-massarrests/

Huber and the 470 attorneys:

Huber was not assigned 470 attorneys. When Sessions mentioned this number, he was making a general observation about the ENTIRE STAFF of the DOJ OIG nationwide (lawyers, secretaries, clerks, etc.). Only at the end of the letter did he bring up Huber's assignment.

https://www.scribd.com/document/375121590/AG-Jeff-Sessions-Letter-to-Congress-RE-Huber-as-Prosecutor-With-IG-Horowitz

Who started the 70k sealed indictment claim:

This article shows the exact person that started the Qanon 70k sealed indictment claim, and the mistakes they made in doing so. It shows how the claim went from 2 documents, to 12, 33, 50, 141... etc. up to the current wildly inaccurate 70k claim. It also shows how the current research team was started, and the mistakes/deception they engaged in, while creating the chart.

https://wmerthon6.wixsite.com/website-1/home/who-started-the-60k-sealed-indictment-claim

Whidbey Island 'missile':

This article examines this incident thoroughly, and almost unquestionably proves that the image was the light trails left behind by the navigation lights on a helicopter passing overhead, during a 20 second long exposure. It includes live radar footage and crew reports, that confirm a helicopter passed over that location, at that time.

https://wmerthon6.wixsite.com/website-1/home/comprehensive-analysis-of-the-whidbey-island-missile

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[–] 17041049? 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

The one proof that has always stuck out to me: Red Castle/Green Castle. How could a hoax have known that Trump would declare a national emergency and use the Army Corps of Engineers to build the wall? And so far in advance?

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[–] 17043431? 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Wow, you are such a shill. You had me until the Whidbey Island missile. It is impossible that it could be a helicopter. Compare the image with other 20 second exposure of planes. If what you are saying is true, then that helo was flying 2,000 mph. Shill confirmed.

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[–] 17043777? ago 

Yeah, I have like 40 pages worth of solid facts, and you use one article I linked to conclude I'm a shill, even though I literally described that article as 'almost unquestionably proves'... meaning I'm conceding that it doesn't 100% prove it's a helicopter. Ok.

Facts are facts. That article provides the facts for both the helicopter theory, and the missile theory. There is far more support for the helicopter theory.

Your 'compare to other long exposure shots', and '2000 mph' comments tell me you didn't even read it, because all that stuff is addressed within it. Glad to debate the facts if you want, but read the article first.

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[–] 17041867? 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Reading through your post, most of what you shared seems to be speculations by anons researching for themselves... not by you. So you compiled a list of things (you've done this elsewhere) that you feel "proves"...what exactly? Why so much concern over whether or not people search for the truth? Why do you attempt to derail those efforts? People post their findings in search of the truth... sometimes things lead to dead ends... sometimes posting things sparks memories in others of past happenings that can be related in helping the dig. Your list is just a feeble attempt to discredit the incredible work being done by many people here and Others! Being cynical is healthy in today's world, but focusing your energy to dissuade from finding truth is in no way shape or form going to correct the problems we have today. Unless of course you are part of the problem and you like it the way it is. "they never thought she would lose"

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[–] 17042520? ago 

Reading through your post, most of what you shared seems to be speculations by anons researching for themselves... not by you.

Everything up there is my content, with the exception of some of the human trafficking section. Not that it really matters.

Your list is just a feeble attempt to discredit the incredible work being done by many people here and Others!

Feeble attempt to discredit? It's objective verifiable data, that completely debunks some of the biggest claims out there.

Your post is pointless... you're just rattling off 'ur a shill! over the target!' talking points that have been said a million times before. Blah blah blah.

Being cynical is healthy in today's world, but focusing your energy to dissuade from finding truth

Objective sourced data dissuades people from finding the truth... lol.

I'm not being 'cynical', I'm correcting blatant mistruths. I'm showing people the truth about the famous Gitmo before/after pic, and the sealed indictments, and the resignations, and all the other garbage claims I listed.

Anthony Wiener just got 'released' from prison. Think about that.

You can keep chasing the can that the 4 chan fortune telling ghost keeps kicking down the road if you want, doesn't bother me... I'm spreading the real 'truth' to those that want to hear it.

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[–] 17040484? 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Thanks for that. I really did believe Q but I think it’s cause I’m new to the conspiracy theory community. Problem is, I’m pretty sure #pizzagate IS real... so I hope God has a plan to deal with that if DJT doesn’t.

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[–] 17042028? 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Dont listen to the shills. Ive been around from the start, before fbianon and all the rest. Q is real and the plan will succeed. This is a multidecade plan and gen x was primed to be the star players. From nwo cards to videogames exposing conspiracies. We will win.

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[–] 17040246? ago 

disinformation is necessary.

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[–] 17040231? ago 

What do you mean reposting a fake tweet?