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[–] 16919591? [S] ago 

How many billions of dollars did SpaceX supposedly lose attempting vertical landings before they were successful, in Earth's atmosphere? With current technology? Do you actually believe that it was even useful to send a golf cart to the Moon? For what purpose, had they already successfully attended to all the experiments that they could possibly imagine and were out of things to do so they flew a golf cart up there (at the risk of human lives) ? If you or anyone else wants to believe the lies perpetrated by NASA, you can, millions do. But the whole heliocentric cosmology model is a hoax, it has been adopted and backed by Jesuits and pushed by them from the beginning. Gravity is stupid. It's a laughable joke. Read Newtons book on it and you will discover how many times a person can use the word "if". It is still a theory, it has never been proven and cannot ever be proven, because it is foolish and false. If you agree with the "globalists and their global cosmology model" you stand with the Jesuits against every major advanced culture in history. You stand against the Bible, against ancient Egyptians, Sumerians, Mayans ......none of them believed the current laughable cosmological model being taught. You are right to question why they wouldn't point the Hubble at the Moon...they can't, the Hubble isn't up there and there is nothing on the surface of the moon. Everyone can believe this lie, but it's now on a timed countdown, to oblivion. The "Space Force" is your clue, Trump and team are "trolling" they are doing all of this to force it to a head...and it's going to explode. Ask yourself this one last question, you sound like a far superior intellect to most who have posted here, if "flat earth" is foolish, if it is just some crazy people swapping easily disprovable ideas, why is there currently a world wide effort to ban even the mention of the words "flat earth", what harm could it do? They don't ban the word "unicorn". But they do ban and censor people who post about Q ---- reason being, it's not foolishness, it's real.

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[–] 16928522? ago 

Unfortunately the "world wide ban" you quote is a straw man and proves nothing. There are flat earth sources out there and I have reviewed a few. Unfortunately some of the arguments posted are of the same logical fallacy. I much prefer the arguments that pose a scientific question, like the equations that limit the sea level viewing distance to 3 miles that can actually be verified. The current heliocentric cosmology has been around for 500 years in one form or another, GPS satellites operate seemingly in defiance of flat earth dictums. Do I believe flat earth? No. Do I disbelieve flat earth? I doubt it as being incredibly unlikely, but would I bet my life on that? No. When someone in a bar bets you that he can pull a live chicken out of your ass, don't bet against him. He's found a way and wants to make $$ out of it. I've been around a long time and seen some stuff.

I am open to many things but I judge them according to Scripture where appropriate. I re-read the first chapter of Genesis and nothing in it precludes a flat earth view of our world. Of course the bible is not a scientific treatise, it is a record of God's dealings with man. But … there are tantalizing hints in it about creation such as Hebrews 11:3: "By faith we understand that the worlds were prepared by the word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things which are visible." This could make string theory a viable theory as energy vibrations in 10 or 12 dimensions (physicists believe there are at least 10) may indeed comprise our physical world. Things get strange very quickly, no?

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[–] 16928764? [S] ago  (edited ago)

I am not a "flat earther", (I have no way to know the correct size and shape of the earth) but I cannot be fooled into believing in the heliocentric model. Reason no 1 is that all of my God given senses refute it. You are correct. The heliocentric model is 500 yrs old, but prior to that every previous "advanced" culture seems to have believed in a flat/plane earth --- the Egyptians, Mayans, Sumerians etc, name them all ...Copernicus was a Jesuit, he was from basically a "Royal Jesuit bloodline" and knowing that the Jesuits are the most corrupt "organization" ever, and seeing all the occult symbols that permeate NASA and ever other space program in the world, and knowing that the Vatican owns and supports more observatories world wide than any other organization. Color me suspicious as hell.