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[–] oneinchterror 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Depends what you mean by "us". People like Commander Rockwell had it figured out shortly after the war. Patriots like Henry Ford and Charles Lindbergh knew long before and warned us.

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[–] CaptnObvius 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

"Us" meaning most of 'Walter Cronkite would never lie' type people.