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[–] justlogin 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

The moon hoax is best seen as an intellectual what-if scenario... But you should look up "buzz aldrin freemason". Truth is stranger than fiction.

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[–] Doglegwarrior 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I think every astronaut was a freemason if im not mistaken.

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[–] ShinyVoater 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

No one no matter how fucking cool calm collected and stress situation masters would be acting like that.

Almost all the Apollo astronauts had test or combat pilot experience - both occupations where just one fuckup anywhere along the line can mean death. This wasn't anything new for them - and Apollo 13 showed just how forgiving the vessels actually were.

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[–] Doglegwarrior 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

This moan hoax thing has helped me realise one thing i will never have to worry about money. Americans are the most gullable people on the planet so selling them shit and telling them its gold would be so easy. No wonder so many scams and ponzi schemes work here shit we let the jews become the richest people with the highest positions of power and we go to their homeland and fight their enemies while 25 of the top richest people in america are jews. Combined net worth over 200 billion while also havif 3 supreme court members! But look how fucking retarded americans are we believe with fucking less computing power then a fucking smart dishwaser we went to the moon, took a gold club head, took a 400 pound dune buggy, took enough tv and radio equipment to send a live signal, flew though radiation belts in a fucking tin can, landed on and then took off of a fucking moon and did it the entire time with the carefree attitude of 14 year old boys on their first trek into the woods! Sure buddy we did that with fucking 1969 technology. I might believe you if they had the proof if nasa had the tapes showing how they did it... ohhh shit nasa the smartest people ever!! Ohh ya we recorded orver all lf the telematry data so ya we cant really go back because that technology is lost. Wake up.

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[–] phoenix883 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

That generation of men was a thousand times harder than people today. They had little qualms if they lived or died there, as they already had made history. You'd be surprised what mental strength people can have if they aren't babied all their lives, have a stable family to grow up in, a unified society in the towns and cities and a society supporting them.

And they are the hardest of that generation, trained to be as fearless they can be.

You would be astonished what mental strength even the regular Joe would develop today if today's environment would be a unified functional ethnostate.

Also, psychological observation of behavior is not evidence. You couldn't tell if they were too fearless or if today's standard is too pussified.

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[–] NotTheMeanest 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Nope, the definitely didn’t go to the moon - which explains their stressed and anxious countenances in first press conference free they were back. And also why those old timey astronots won’t swear on a bible that they went to the moon. Because they didn’t.

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[–] phoenix883 ago  (edited ago)

I did not rule out that possibility. However, this claim requires proof and I'm very sceptical about subjective perception of stress and relaxation in voices of people growing up in a far different world and recorded fifty years ago.

It may be enough reason to suspect fraud, but without proof it remains speculative.

Also, it is quite irrelevant for present day politics. Even if it were fraud, it would mean nothing for our time if that fraud was revealed. None of our lives would experience any kind of improvement, nobody would get richer or happier, and none of our living conditions would become any safer from white extinction. Maybe white extinction would be accelerated, because anti white shilling would gain a new foothold.

Sure, truth above all, but there's truth that doesn't matter much.

You know what truths matter a lot. 9-11 and the death camps. The truth about these events have tremendous consequences for our daily situation and finding discrepancies there would unseat almost the entire political landscape. JFK would be similar, if not as far reaching.

That's why I suspect everyone who introduces new and irrelevant truther debates to be a paid shill. Flat Earth, moon landing, vaccines - irrelevant or much less relevant than most other topics.

Imagine for a minute the moon landing was revealed as a hoax tomorrow. What would happen? The government would tell us "yeah we lied but it was a lie we used to defeat the Ruskies, because they overextended their resources far and wide to win the space race. It was a lie to make the Soviet Union bankrupt themselves, and they did. We won, cool story, bro." - that's the best possible scenario and that is worth nothing to us. When the best possible outcome is worth that little, it makes no sense to pursue it.

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[–] Doglegwarrior 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I disagree but you were respectfull and made some valid points. I still dont believe it but people can disagree.

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[–] YEAH_I_READ_BOOKS ago 

i dont think the moon landing happened but i dont really think their behavior alone disproves it. coupled with the other sketchy stuff though it makes a good case

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[–] oneinchterror 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

So, do you believe we've never been to the moon period? Or do you just not believe that humans have physically set foot there?

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[–] MrShekelstein ago 

nice strawman.

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[–] Doglegwarrior 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Maybe we got probes there. Ive listed 10 solid reasons i dont think humans have gone. Some people very few have gone item by item and came up with some semi logical explanations. The thing that pisses me off is the fact nasa astronaughts are on tape saying we cant go through the van allen belts with out serious shielding then fucking online trolls say yes we can go through the van allen belts who do i believe the 3 different videos with nasa astronaughtz saying we cant oe keyboard troll? Anyways its hard to believe anything from nasa at this point. Google the space station screw ups where people get tangled in strings and shit. Could be a psyops at this point theres so many lies the truth would be impossible to find or believe.