[–] Butterbread 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Who knows the truth about anything, but I don't buy your argument about their attitude on the Moon. They're fucking on the fucking Moon! On the FUCKING MOON! Can't you imagine how exhilarating that must be? Just seeing the Earth from space is apparently a mind blowing experience. Walking on the Moon probably blows that away.
[–] Doglegwarrior ago
Great logic. I dont think u have really thought this through. Sure for a minute or two id be like fuck ya! Then i would relize im 240k miles away one tiny mistake and i die the worst death you can imagine basicaly suffocating while freezing or burning. I mean one tiny tear? Any mistake and dead with no hope. They basicaly showed zero signs of being in the most dangerous enviroment any human has ever been i ln and they all act like its a round of sunday golf on a perfect day. Sure
[–] Butterbread ago
Maybe you're right. I don't suppose there's anything that would convince you that they were on the Moon, is there? Like, if another nation finds the flag and the rover and footprints up there, would that convince you?
[–] Doglegwarrior 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
I think every astronaut was a freemason if im not mistaken.
[–] Doglegwarrior ago
It was just to show how a metaly tough person dealt with a high preszure situtation. It is apples and oranges to a degree but the way the astrohoaxers where just joking around and playing just seemed unrealistic in context.
[–] chirogonemd ago (edited ago)
I could stand to hear arguments about how these men (a) possessed unbelievable outlier status in terms of mental resiliency and emotional non-volatility and (b) underwent insane training to prepare them mentally for the task and the situation they would be in.
I could hear those arguments.
At the same time, I agree with your points. We know that when human beings enter into situations of non-mastery (places you've never been, places that are dangerous and strange) you are basically frozen in many senses. Now, we could imagine that their training had prepared them to at least not freeze. But to be as relaxed as children on a lower gravity rock 240,000 miles away from the planet your species evolved on, from your home, to see your planet at that distance and realize your isolation, that literally the faintest of mis-steps or miscalculations in so many different variables means you are NEVER getting back....to be playing golf.
It doesn't make sense. Yeah, ostensibly they had made it, but they had to get back too. Great we made it! We can play now! Despite the fact we are going to be attempting to launch a space craft from the surface of a lunar rock - something that has never been accomplished by any person ever - and chances are worse-than-neutral that we ever get home. Knowing that the most important part of the trip was still coming and had margins of error that were tremendously small, you just wouldn't reasonably expect a human being to be this casual, no matter how mentally resilient. Resiliency doesn't mean you are foolish.
To me, the likelihood that these men went to the moon is very, very low. But, perhaps this was something they trained for, i.e. they trained to engage in these casual activities as a technique for managing the insane mental stress they'd be under.
[–] Doglegwarrior 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Man you wrote out my thoughts better then i could have. I am typing from my phone with two thumbs but still even if i had sat down at my computer you explained my point literaly better then i could have. Much thanks. Man there is no way they went to the moon. Do any tiny bit of research on tv signals and the power needed to do a live broadcast and you will realise really quickly there is no way in hell they took enough power to send a signal from the moon to the earth and have i lt sound that good and be distortion free basicaly. Its literaly impossible. The idiots shills say well it was going through the vacum of space so it didnt need that much power. It went 240k miles then it had to still go through the earths athmospher! Its a lie the entire thing was a lie. And they had billions of reasons to lie and it helped defeatt the russians.
[–] chirogonemd ago
Interesting stuff here, man. I honestly feel stupid for having never questioned the signal transmission.