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[–] 16383049? ago 

He didn't "release" people because he was never holding them hostage. Some came out in the early part of the siege and all of them were instantly taken into custody and the children were sent to the CPS in Texas. The CPS stated that all the children that ended up in their care were well behaved, educated, and showed no signs of abuse. The adults all ended up getting charged for murder of ATF officers and some still sit in prison to this day despite a jury finding them innocent on that charge. The jury did find them guilty of having "illegal firearms" and the judge just tied the two charges together and gave all of them the maximum sentence. He basically overruled the jury's findings and sentenced them for murder anyway.

The part about "God told me not to come out" is partly his religion and partly because the Government kept escalating the situation. They cut power to the compound and employed psychological warfare tactics against them. They had sniper posted all around the compound (one of which being the man that killed an innocent woman at Ruby Ridge). They had armed goons posted all around that were taunting through various means (mooning, giving the finger, along with other schoolyard antics). They were constantly driving tanks around the compound removing trees/material in preparation for the final assault. People could have left the compound at any time but were afraid they'd be shot where they stood for attempting it.

On the day of the final assault Delta team was on the grounds. Officially, they were there to "advise the FBI" but what really happened is they were taking part in the assault itself. Delta can only be called out by order of the president as they're basically the president's private army. When the final assault started nerve gas was pumped directly into the building at the known locations of the children inside with full awareness that there were not gas masks for the kids. When the building caught fire the FBI's own FLIR video shows Government officials discharging fully automatic rifles into the escape points of the building. The "bunker" where the women and children were taken to weather the assault had a high explosive charge placed on the roof which caused a massive hole allowing the fire to penetrate inside of it. The Government's own video shows that rebar was blown downwards and a massive hole in the concrete of the roof. The FBI's own team members has said that after the attack they discovered multiple bodies of women and children with bullet holes in them.

These bodies, along with all material from the compound were destroyed before any independent investigation could occur. The bunker was supposed to be buried on the property but when people went looking for it years later everything had been removed from the property. The bodies were supposed to be kept on ice until autopsies could be performed but the FBI cut power to those trailers and allowed them to rot destroying all evidence. The flash bangs that were used in the assault turned up later in evidence mislabeled as "silencers" and "gun parts".

Koresh said he could come out after he'd written down some text and was in the process of finishing it when the assault occurred. He was writing something related to the 7 seals and had placed the first one out a window for the world to see a day or two before the attack. The people inside the compound were surviving on rain water and drinking less than 8 ounces a day. They'd run out of food and hadn't fired a shot since the first day when the ATF shot at them unprovoked. Why would they remain inside a place like that, where the Government had told them if they approached a window it would be considered a threat and they'd get shot unless they feared for their lives? The Government was basically proving everything they believed to be correct: That this was the end of days and Babylon had come to their door steps to kill them all. All the Government had to do was talk to them in good faith and de-escalate the situation.

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[–] 16383050? ago 

(continued)

All of this was caused by the ATF, who was facing massive budget cuts, looking for a quick and easy way to seem relevant to the public. They thought they were going to go in there and serve a warrant, find some illegal guns, and get some good play in the media. Instead they found resistance and botched the entire thing. After that the Clintons, FBI, Janet Reno, and various other people in the Government like Chuck Schumer got involved and attempted to clean up the mess. In a bid to save face they murdered tons of innocents on live television and spun it as

dur hur crazy clut leader, brainwashed people, pedos!!! Don't you feel safe now that big brother got rid of these domestic terrorists!?

It it any wonder that a man that witnessed all this go down that had military training himself and saw through the bullshit bombed a Government building two short years later? Waco and Ruby Ridge represent the start of the war against free men in this country. Waco is the first time tanks and the military was used against citizens of this country. Ruby Ridge, instigated by Government agents who took advantage of a poor man that just needed some cash to feed his family, who shot his dog, child, and wife lit a fuse. The man's only crime was rejection of modern society and attempting to raise a family outside of that society. The Government attempted to justify all those actions simply because he sawed off a shotgun for them. All because he visited his neighbors in an attempt to get some socialization for his children, all because those neighbors were white separatists.

This all boils down to the Government's fear that if people stop watching television, using the "smart" devices, and actually come together as a community that they'll get fed up living in this evil society and doing something about it. They use these same tactics on any potential uprising. That's why they kill black leaders, that's why they kill people like GLR, that's why they constantly shill here and attempt to shut down any platform outside of their control that names the kikes and allows freedom of speech. Free thinking people can simply not be allowed to have free thought if their plans are going to come to fruition. If you aren't a total normalfag you become they enemy.

The pen is mightier than the sword. But the sword is required to defend the pen. If you aren't well armed and prepared to die for what you believe in they'll win. They'll roll tanks in on you just like they've done countless times. They'll set the building you're in on fire and claim you lit that fire yourself. They'll run 24/7 shilling campaigns on every media outlet to paint you as crazy. They'll kill you, your family, your children, your dogs and claim it had to be done because you brainwashed everyone around you. They'll put things you said on the internet and the books you read on full display and claim you peddled hate and lies. They'll bring out armies of normalfag niggers, muslims, and women to cry about how they don't feel safe because people like you still exist in the current year.

Educate everyone you know about the true story of Waco and Ruby Ridge. It's a massive redpill and that's why even 25 years later the Government shills against the true so much. They're playing the long game hoping that the truth will get buried under their lies. Don't let the innocent children of Waco and Ruby Ridge be forgotten. It's our duty to keep their memory alive and make sure this never happens again.

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[–] 16383053? ago 

>>12433034

10/10 Posts like these are why I still come to this board.

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[–] 16383070? ago 

>>12433034

I hope I capped good

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[–] 16383094? ago 

>>12433034

excellent post

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[–] 16383132? ago 

Well, a wise anon said it:

>>12433035

They'll run 24/7 shilling campaigns on every media outlet to paint you as crazy. They'll kill you, your family, your children, your dogs and claim it had to be done because you brainwashed everyone around you.

Now, let's see what slime oozed up here:

>>12517180

<self-righteous apologetics for mass-murder

<the jewsmedia labeled you a "whacko" and a "cult"; so I think it's a-ok for the fedgov to roll up tanks and helicopter gunships, pump your house full of poison gas, and then light you all on fire!

For those with attention spans typical of the Twitter Generation, I will put this up front: According to a764ff, if in his judgment you are "a whacko" or "a cult", then it is acceptable for the United States Federal government to gas and burn you alive together with your women and children. "Pure and simple." According to him, mass-murder of "whackos" is justifiable. "Pure and simple."'

Now, I'm not sure whether you're one of the "responsible conservatives" (i.e. moral cowards) who bear the primary onus for the mess we're in now, or my obscure /pol/ post said something so dangerous that it merited a professionally written glownigger propaganda reply. Either way, you are the enemy. But to avoid getting my ego inadvertently stroked by the latter possibility, I will assume the former.

<GenPop

As I pointed out above, >>12442950 that's a prison-slang term, suitable for an American who is institutionally acclimated to the enormous prison called the "United States". (Or who wants others to be so acclimated.)

<the militia and citizens movement GREW THE FUCK UP AFTER WACO.

No, they ran like scared little boys to hide under their beds or to kiss the feet of their enemies — just as America's "responsible conservatives" did after the assassination of Jack Kennedy, at a time when the country still may have been reclaimed without bloodshed, and at every other fatal hour of decision in the past century.

Your kind are more worried about safety and comfort than about freedom and posterity — and worse than you fear violence, you most of all fear being called "wackos", "fascists", "domestic terrorists", or other nasty names by the jewsmedia's semi-literate mouthpieces.

<After Waco, it was "Oh yeah, those wackos down in Texas

After Waco, it was, "Oh yeah, maybe the (((ADL))) might say that I'm a bad goy, and then I might get hurt, or (gasp! faint!) I may not be considered 'respectable'."

<[Ruby Ridge] would be a defeat for the government, the best way: by their own devices in Court.

"The System works, goy!" Good to know that your Holy Court brought Vicki and Sammy Weaver back to life. Also that it sent Lon Horiuchi and the whole murder-gang to the gallows. Oh, what's that? Horiuchi went on to play more live-fire target practice on Americans at Waco, while your precious court immunized him against state charges for homicide? You don't say.

(Continued…)

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[–] 16383059? ago 

>>12433035

Good post.

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[–] 16383066? ago 

>>12433035

Thank you for answering my questions. Your extended post needs to be made its own thread, stickied, and forcibly tattooed to the brains of every White American who does not care about Waco. Which is almost all of them.

In a first for me insofar as things found posted on the Internet are concerned, I will be quoting these words, credit Anonymous:

The pen is mightier than the sword. But the sword is required to defend the pen. If you aren't well armed and prepared to die for what you believe in they'll win. They'll roll tanks in on you just like they've done countless times. They'll set the building you're in on fire and claim you lit that fire yourself. They'll run 24/7 shilling campaigns on every media outlet to paint you as crazy. They'll kill you, your family, your children, your dogs and claim it had to be done because you brainwashed everyone around you. They'll put things you said on the internet and the books you read on full display and claim you peddled hate and lies. They'll bring out armies of normalfag niggers, muslims, and women to cry about how they don't feel safe because people like you still exist in the current year.

I have only one quibble with what you said:

The Disconnect

Educate everyone you know about the true story of Waco and Ruby Ridge. It's a massive redpill…. Don't let the innocent children of Waco and Ruby Ridge be forgotten. It's our duty to keep their memory alive and make sure this never happens again.

The penultimate and ultimate clauses are not connected in reality. The memory must be kept alive, and it is every man's duty to keep it alive; but that is a matter of principle, and of conserving historical knowledge on the slight chance that the White man avoids extinction, and thus has future generations to care about such things.

But educating the public is useless (as Hitler observed in Mein Kampf I, Chapter 12). The American people do not care. The United States government massacred Americans in broad daylight; and aside from a few pockets of mostly impotent outrage, the reaction was to uncomfortably change the channel and forget within fifteen minutes. And I refer here to those few Americans who were not so actively evil as to lap up the lies and cheer the mass-murderers.

The reason why Americans do not care is not ignorance, or lack of "redpills". For twenty-five years, the truth about Waco has been readily available to anybody even vaguely aware that the mainstream media is not always entirely truthful — that is, everybody who is not a total fool. The Waco truth has been spread by persons of a wide range of mutually exclusive political opinions, from libertarians to National Socialists. Indeed, I myself first bumped into the basic facts about Waco when I was a youth shamefully bedazzled by the artful dissimulation of (((Ayn Rand))).

No, the reason why Americans don't care is that Waco is not real to them — and they don't wait it to be! They live in a world of movie violence and blood-soaked videogames. They are not like the men of centuries past, who were acquainted with the facts of life from the slaughter of farm animals to the waging of war. It is not so much that they are "desensitized", but rather, that they are mentally habituated to transmuting reality to fantasy — not vice versa, as is commonly supposed. This provides an easy escape for moral cowards — and that is what they are, moral cowards.

When shown a Holohoax mockumentary, they will believe it because that is convenient. It costs them nothing, avoids uncomfortable costs, and also helps them rationalize the plain fact that their own granddaddies invaded Europe and consummated the Suicide of the White Race. Therefore, the images and "facts" they see are real to them.

But when told the truth about Waco, it is to them as if watching a dark Hollywood thriller. Yes, they feel the same upset they feel at a horror movie. They disconnect. It is unreal. It is not a fact of the world in which they live, and thus can never affect their daily lives.

(To be continued due to post length limit…)

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[–] 16383067? ago 

…Waco… horror movie… disconnect… not a fact of the world in which they live, and thus can never affect their daily lives.

A proof is in the violent hatred they pour out for a man to whom Waco was real. Timothy McVeigh did not disconnect, did not evade. To him, the massacre was real, unacceptable, and demanding of a real response. Equal and opposite reaction. His real-world reaction stripped naked their hypocrisy.

Yes, McVeigh had some flaws both strategically and philosophically. This does not elide the fact that he had some qualities unknown to Boobus Americanus: Moral courage — and the humane decency to care more about the victims at Waco than he did about his own life, a decency unknown to moral imbeciles who let mass-murders go unpunished.

Now, observe how much McVeigh is vilely traduced and disavowed by people who claim to remember Waco, claim to be outraged, and even claim to hate the murderous tyranny which committed the Waco massacre. He is to them a reminder that this is real, this actually happened — and somebody actually did something about it, which you never will. His logical, real-world response of meeting violence with violence and not mere words is a piercing reminder of their own cowardice, their submissiveness to the masters they claim to defy, their utter impotence. He is their enemy — worse than the "ZOG", the "Feds", the "Gubmint", or whatever other epithets they toss at their owners, to whom they surrendered themselves without fighting.

By obediently joining their masters' scripted condemnations of McVeigh as a criminal, a murderer, and a "domestic terrorist", they shield themselves against the accusation presented by his very existence — and they irrevocably choose sides. The price for this comfort is their souls, their children's birthright, and the very existence of their posterity. For this, for the convenience of a cowardly evasion, they have sold their own children's freedom, and condemned their future generations to slavery or extinction. For Waco and Ruby Ridge were just the start… >>12429362

Of course, this is only one instance of their consistent pattern of behavior, always and everywhere. They make that devil's deal every day of their lives, just as did their fathers and grandfathers. But it is symbolic. And it is revealing.

The Americans have sealed their own doom — the word "doom" being a Germanic word for judgment.

For that judgment, a government which mass-murders its citizens in broad daylight and does not face immediate insurrection is the greater proof emphasized by the aforestated symbolic exception. What? That sounds dangerous, and even illegal! Somebody might get hurt. Quick, change the channel. For no such thing to have occurred a quarter-century later is a magnitude of proof which words cannot adequately describe. The Americans regard their own lives as worthless, for they regard their fellow Americans' lives as worthless; and they do not know the meaning of freedom. Their condign punishment shall be to receive what they accepted, and thus, what they implicitly wished upon themselves.

Yes, people get the government they deserve.

To those few who wish to escape that terrible fate, the only possible chance is not merely "remembering", but accepting that this is a memory of real events. Accepting that reality without evasion imposes a choice: Either act in reality, for neither justice nor freedom are wrought by mere words — or frankly give up in reality, and honestly forswear your own soul and your own posterity. The latter alternative being a fate worse than death for any man worthy of the word, the only answer is radicalization.

We may never know the true number of Americans who met reality head-on a quarter-century ago. McVeigh was an honorable man, who claimed full responsibility so as to protect his comrades, if any; by taking the fall for them, he also inadvertently received historical credit as possibly the only able-bodied man in the entire United States who was fully awake at that time, not disconnected, and not a base poltroon.

The future depends on there being more with the moral courage to not disconnect.

I thank whatever gods may be

For my unconquerable soul.

— Timothy McVeigh, June 11, 2001 (Final Written Statement of Timothy McVeigh — last words of a free man.)

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[–] 16383068? ago 

No, the reason why Americans don't care is that Waco is not real to them — and they don't want it to be!

…and other gross infelicities of wording. I should not attempt to write when shaking with rage.

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[–] 16383083? ago 

>>12433035

Finally a legit oldfag posting, I didn't think any were left

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