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[–] 16383033? ago 

In the first few days, the FBI believed they had made a breakthrough when they negotiated with Koresh an agreement that the Branch Davidians would peacefully leave the compound in return for a message, recorded by Koresh, being broadcast on national radio.[23] The broadcast was made, but Koresh then told negotiators that God had told him to remain in the building and "wait".[23] Despite this, soon afterwards negotiators managed to facilitate the release of 19 children, ranging in age from five months to 12 years old, without their parents.[12] However, 98 people remained in the building.

You did not cite a source; but it looked obvious, and was easy enough to find. Here is a permanent link to this version:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Waco_siege&oldid=868687457

Now, the citations referenced in this passage:

<12. [Psychotherapy Networker, March/April 2007, "Stairway to Heaven; Treating children in the crosshairs of trauma." Excerpt from the book The Boy Who Was Raised as a Dog by Bruce Perry and Maia Szalavitz.

<23. Neil Rawles (February 2, 2007). Inside Waco (Television documentary). Channel 4/HBO.

You will forgive me if I wax a wee bit skeptical at sources which are 666% kiked, as filtered through the lens of what is today one of the most influential Jewish mass-propaganda operations in the Western world. This is not a glib brush-off: Based on hard experience, I have found it wise to hold a rebuttable presumption that such sources contain substantive inaccuracies. Indeed, I have never yet found any instance where they don't, at least as to politically sensitive topics.

I am not personally an expert on the history of the Waco massacre, and don't claim to be. Now, you've made a positive assertion that Koresh was "a freak a fucker and a doofus". If, in support thereof, you wish to better educate me with something more reliable than HBO TV (!), a psychotherapy periodical (!), or goddamn Wikipedia (!!), please feel free. I'll be watching this thread.

Now was the government wrong to massacre them? Yes of course, they were communist criminal monsters, but Koresh himself was a freak a fucker and a doofus.

If that last is a reference to Koresh's religious beliefs, well — the article I cited upthread was written by a militant atheist, whose judgment in these matters I trust. That should give you a measure of how much I (don't) sympathize with the gross superstitions of any sect of Christianity. But free men who mind their own business in their own little communities have a right to entertain silly notions without a Treasury Department army (why does the Treasury Department have its own army!?) gassing and incinerating them over it. As far as I'm concerned, this was about equivalent to a massacre of the Amish.

Whereas if you were insinuating some moral equivocation about the massacre, you'll have an awful uphill battle persuading any sane person that Koresh and his folks deserved this in any way. Thus far, you've given me HBO TV (!) and a psychotherapy periodical (!), via goddamn Wikipedia (!!). Actually, I think you thus made my point.

(The fact that Wikipedia considers an HBO "documentary" to be a "reliable source" should tell you all you need to know about the Kike Encyclopedia. I hope you don't learn your info about the Holohoax from them.)

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[–] 16383049? ago 

He didn't "release" people because he was never holding them hostage. Some came out in the early part of the siege and all of them were instantly taken into custody and the children were sent to the CPS in Texas. The CPS stated that all the children that ended up in their care were well behaved, educated, and showed no signs of abuse. The adults all ended up getting charged for murder of ATF officers and some still sit in prison to this day despite a jury finding them innocent on that charge. The jury did find them guilty of having "illegal firearms" and the judge just tied the two charges together and gave all of them the maximum sentence. He basically overruled the jury's findings and sentenced them for murder anyway.

The part about "God told me not to come out" is partly his religion and partly because the Government kept escalating the situation. They cut power to the compound and employed psychological warfare tactics against them. They had sniper posted all around the compound (one of which being the man that killed an innocent woman at Ruby Ridge). They had armed goons posted all around that were taunting through various means (mooning, giving the finger, along with other schoolyard antics). They were constantly driving tanks around the compound removing trees/material in preparation for the final assault. People could have left the compound at any time but were afraid they'd be shot where they stood for attempting it.

On the day of the final assault Delta team was on the grounds. Officially, they were there to "advise the FBI" but what really happened is they were taking part in the assault itself. Delta can only be called out by order of the president as they're basically the president's private army. When the final assault started nerve gas was pumped directly into the building at the known locations of the children inside with full awareness that there were not gas masks for the kids. When the building caught fire the FBI's own FLIR video shows Government officials discharging fully automatic rifles into the escape points of the building. The "bunker" where the women and children were taken to weather the assault had a high explosive charge placed on the roof which caused a massive hole allowing the fire to penetrate inside of it. The Government's own video shows that rebar was blown downwards and a massive hole in the concrete of the roof. The FBI's own team members has said that after the attack they discovered multiple bodies of women and children with bullet holes in them.

These bodies, along with all material from the compound were destroyed before any independent investigation could occur. The bunker was supposed to be buried on the property but when people went looking for it years later everything had been removed from the property. The bodies were supposed to be kept on ice until autopsies could be performed but the FBI cut power to those trailers and allowed them to rot destroying all evidence. The flash bangs that were used in the assault turned up later in evidence mislabeled as "silencers" and "gun parts".

Koresh said he could come out after he'd written down some text and was in the process of finishing it when the assault occurred. He was writing something related to the 7 seals and had placed the first one out a window for the world to see a day or two before the attack. The people inside the compound were surviving on rain water and drinking less than 8 ounces a day. They'd run out of food and hadn't fired a shot since the first day when the ATF shot at them unprovoked. Why would they remain inside a place like that, where the Government had told them if they approached a window it would be considered a threat and they'd get shot unless they feared for their lives? The Government was basically proving everything they believed to be correct: That this was the end of days and Babylon had come to their door steps to kill them all. All the Government had to do was talk to them in good faith and de-escalate the situation.

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[–] 16383066? ago 

>>12433035

Thank you for answering my questions. Your extended post needs to be made its own thread, stickied, and forcibly tattooed to the brains of every White American who does not care about Waco. Which is almost all of them.

In a first for me insofar as things found posted on the Internet are concerned, I will be quoting these words, credit Anonymous:

The pen is mightier than the sword. But the sword is required to defend the pen. If you aren't well armed and prepared to die for what you believe in they'll win. They'll roll tanks in on you just like they've done countless times. They'll set the building you're in on fire and claim you lit that fire yourself. They'll run 24/7 shilling campaigns on every media outlet to paint you as crazy. They'll kill you, your family, your children, your dogs and claim it had to be done because you brainwashed everyone around you. They'll put things you said on the internet and the books you read on full display and claim you peddled hate and lies. They'll bring out armies of normalfag niggers, muslims, and women to cry about how they don't feel safe because people like you still exist in the current year.

I have only one quibble with what you said:

The Disconnect

Educate everyone you know about the true story of Waco and Ruby Ridge. It's a massive redpill…. Don't let the innocent children of Waco and Ruby Ridge be forgotten. It's our duty to keep their memory alive and make sure this never happens again.

The penultimate and ultimate clauses are not connected in reality. The memory must be kept alive, and it is every man's duty to keep it alive; but that is a matter of principle, and of conserving historical knowledge on the slight chance that the White man avoids extinction, and thus has future generations to care about such things.

But educating the public is useless (as Hitler observed in Mein Kampf I, Chapter 12). The American people do not care. The United States government massacred Americans in broad daylight; and aside from a few pockets of mostly impotent outrage, the reaction was to uncomfortably change the channel and forget within fifteen minutes. And I refer here to those few Americans who were not so actively evil as to lap up the lies and cheer the mass-murderers.

The reason why Americans do not care is not ignorance, or lack of "redpills". For twenty-five years, the truth about Waco has been readily available to anybody even vaguely aware that the mainstream media is not always entirely truthful — that is, everybody who is not a total fool. The Waco truth has been spread by persons of a wide range of mutually exclusive political opinions, from libertarians to National Socialists. Indeed, I myself first bumped into the basic facts about Waco when I was a youth shamefully bedazzled by the artful dissimulation of (((Ayn Rand))).

No, the reason why Americans don't care is that Waco is not real to them — and they don't wait it to be! They live in a world of movie violence and blood-soaked videogames. They are not like the men of centuries past, who were acquainted with the facts of life from the slaughter of farm animals to the waging of war. It is not so much that they are "desensitized", but rather, that they are mentally habituated to transmuting reality to fantasy — not vice versa, as is commonly supposed. This provides an easy escape for moral cowards — and that is what they are, moral cowards.

When shown a Holohoax mockumentary, they will believe it because that is convenient. It costs them nothing, avoids uncomfortable costs, and also helps them rationalize the plain fact that their own granddaddies invaded Europe and consummated the Suicide of the White Race. Therefore, the images and "facts" they see are real to them.

But when told the truth about Waco, it is to them as if watching a dark Hollywood thriller. Yes, they feel the same upset they feel at a horror movie. They disconnect. It is unreal. It is not a fact of the world in which they live, and thus can never affect their daily lives.

(To be continued due to post length limit…)

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[–] 16383083? ago 

>>12433035

Finally a legit oldfag posting, I didn't think any were left

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[–] 16383059? ago 

>>12433035

Good post.

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[–] 16383127? ago 

>>12433035

That still doesn't explain why many young girls said he touched them