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[–] 16916230? ago 

This is not a schizo LARP or some gangstalking "I'm so special the CIA allocates resources to messing with me just cuz trust me!" type shit. I don't know if this is real.

My brother was possibly MKULTRA'd and suicided or committed suicide to avoid execution. He was, according to his words, into conspiracy digging and hacking and stumbled upon something and got swiftly blackmailed by US intelligence over his degenerate internet habits where they gave him instructions over what to do, just like that Black Mirror episode except way before it aired. They told him to go to various locations across the country and he gave dubious reasons for why he was going to x city etc and my family had no idea what was going on as he went from being a shut-in to going to 'buddhist temples', churches, gyms in weird distance places, just very out of character stuff. Why would he go to a shitty gym a hundred miles away when there's a better one a few blocks away? - stuff like that. Cover stories.

Basically what happened was after he was blackmailed he was told to immediately go to a front doctor who gave him a drug via depot (shot into his buttocks I believe, and would slowly release over a month or so) that scrambled his memory and turned him psychotic, came back as a completely different person, different body language and personality, talking in word salad after one visit to the 'psychiatrist'. I only found this out shortly before he died because my father procured a potent antipsychotic (he would refuse to take them and later explained he was conditioned to refuse them) and dropped it in his drink and he came to and explained as much as he could within a little over an hour, he wasn't fully compis mentis and had a hard time with recalling what had happened, was thanking my dad for dosing him. He was incredibly lucid compared to the state he had been in for about two years before relapsing into his memory-wiped state after about 1-2 hours.

He told me that he was blackmailed for two years and was ordered by "the US government", he didn't know what department but it wasn't some kind of random vigilante group. He wouldn't tell us about what he was ordered to carry out but had this reticence that implied it was something bad - or perhaps it was his memory was scrambled because this was him 'coming to' after two years of having a goldfish memory and being pure catatonic talking in tongues.

He said he found a project within the US state department that had a plan to create a war of the sexes and to quote "Make young men kill themselves", I said "white men?" he said no, all young men. Said it was a team of linguistic experts, mentioned NLP, ironybro internet comedians/journalists and a famous literary critic. He was muddled on the details and infuriatingly vague but this was after two years of either just being schizo or drugged like he claimed.

After telling us this he continued to take the antipsychotics at higher doses and he flew into a rage saying he wasn't fully competent when my dad gave him the antipsychotic and he wasn't supposed to speak about it because he said all of our phones and laptops were 'bugged'. He then said he was sorry, it was his fault for playing with fire and telling us this he "broke the rules" and my family would be undergo a "campaign of personal destruction" and said "they" threatened to engineer a situation where we would be driven into poverty and end up homeless (this hasn't happened +1 year on). He was saying he himself was threatened with severe torture. He was very vague and it was really hard to get specifics, but after taking the antipsychotic he was infinitely more specific than in his allegedly drugged state. I asked him why was he snooping around high level stuff and what level of security was he at (Didn't know shit about netsec then) and he said he was doing it for a short while and got really sloppy and that's how it happened.

Within the hour of telling us he jumped off a bridge into a river from quite a height and broke a bunch of bones and was dragged to shore by bystanders and taken to the emergency room. He was sent to a suicide watch ward where every patient was meant to be searched for ligatures and anything on them that could be used to kill themselves. Within the week he was dead from a massive, like several chunky boxes sized-amount of phenobarbital. Could have smuggled blister packs in taped to the inside of his clothes - it was shoulder/arm breaks and a neck injury so he could walk but still it was overkill and they're meant to be searched. His last call to me and to each member of the immediately family was "They're going to torture me. I'm sorry for everything I've done." and hung up the afternoon of the night when it happened.

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[–] 17821453? ago 

Sounds like a LARP.

  1. Why didn't you film those soldiers going around your house? Why didn't you ask to speak with their commanding officer and ask why they were circling your house?

  2. Would the scheduling person in the hospital your mom goes to conveniently be a spook to schedule her with a spook doctor? Wouldn't the other employees notice a bunch of new women dressed as nurses nobody knew before going around for no reason? Or are all the nurses in the building spooks too?

  3. Why didn't you record your brother telling you all that stuff?

  4. How did your father take ahold of anti-psychotics? Why didn't he keep giving him those or just take him to another psychiatrist? Why didn't you institutionalize him? (even if he was working for the CIA, that would mean he doesn't have to work for them anymore, right?)

Furthermore, how could he do any useful work for (((them))) while tripping balls on psychedelics?

  1. How did he "hack" anything worthwhile and at the same time have no knowledge at all of how to prevent being traced? This isn't the 90s anymore, you don't find sensitive data and servers just lying around. To do anything interesting he would have to be pretty much a professional in the computer security field. Wouldn't he remember the technical details of his hack if it was the peak of his life, rather than just give you vague details?

  2. Do you have any paper trail to back up what you just said? This could be a big deal if you can prove at least some of it. But probably not, right?. And if you're worrying about the spooks finding out you're talking online, your story is already way to detailed to be personally identifiable.

I'm not saying people aren't blackmailed, drugged or stalked, they might or might not, but the details in your case don't seem too believable.

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[–] 17821454? ago 

t. CIAnegger

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[–] 16925192? ago 

If not a LARP, the machine is out there, from what I see, inlcuding civie netowrks that include doctors and nurses. That is mainly why I am not dismissing this.

My advice would be to buy time. Chances are they are just intimidating you to try and be thorough. They arent going want to kill anyone who isn't an actual threat, and it sounds like they got rid of the evidence. Even your parent's lawsuit will be cheaper to let them win and have the hospital pay than take you all out.

But I would go slow anyway. Trump was a very real target of this machine, and he is working on it from what I see. So if you can slow walk things six months or so, the threat may be too busy trying to survive to worry about you and them.

My guess is you will get a harassment operation at some point, but lots get that, and it ultimately goes nowhere, so don't freak out when you see it. It isn't personal, and if they show you those people, it may even mean they don't intend to take you out.

Good luck.

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[–] 16916232? ago 

Now I have extended family members, one with schizo-affective disorder another with schizophrenia and I've seen them unmedicated. I've dealt with colleagues who had it and went unmedicated until they finally had to leave because they got so bad. The difference between them and my brother is the diagnosed schizos had peaks and troughs of lucidity and delusion. With my brother it was like an aggressive psychedelic drug trip that was sustained and his memory was totally scrambled in a way that was far beyond people with schizo-affective/phrenia I had observed. He was a super logical, down-to-earth guy although admittedly he had become a 'sociopath' in recent years because of what he was held over a barrel over.

Me and my family had chalked this up to delusions and that he probably developed this narrative out of a long period of psychosis. But things started getting weird when my parents initiated an inquiry into medical negligience and how he was able to smuggle in barbituates within days of a serious suicide attempt. My parents told me all their communications to my brother were wiped in tandem, text messages and other messaging apps etc. They then started to become paranoid and believed that what my brother was saying was true. I told them there's only two possibilities:

  1. You're tech illiterates and you wiped the messages through incompetence like getting a virus or hitting the wrong button but they insisted it was selective deletions that involved dates, times and proof that x event happened and they did match up in what they said when I asked them independently. I had no contact with my brother for those 2 years because he said I would be aggressive towards him if I found out what he was blackmailed over and I wouldn't understand the bigger picture so there was nothing to delete.

  2. What my brother said was true and he's fucked us all with his degeneracy and given us too little info to go off of and if you go up against an intelligence agency, none of us are smart enough to win and even if we were macgyvers or super-detectives my brother had put targets on our backs and screwed any chance to not be pre-empted. I said if it's true, there's nothing you can do because he failed. I said the only consolation is if they were working him to get him to do something like shoot up a school, they screwed up. But I said there's an infinitely small chance this was the case and it was just fantasy.

But what happened during a coroner court hearing was the defense approached my parents against requests not to be contacted except via their lawyers and offered a very large out-of-court settlement. They both told her to fuck off. My dad contacted another family with a suicide/negligence case at the same hospital involing their daughter and they told them they settled for a much smaller sum even though the case of the girl was far more egregious which was suspect as fuck.

So far my parents have had their house surrounded by a massive "counter-terrorism" unit with APCs, ACOG/EOtech 5.56s with loads of mods, full body armor and snipers on the grass but in a really stupidly positioned way, just a completely insane incident. They didn't breach any doors, they weren't taking cover but merely walking around with their rifles and armor outside and circling the house with dogs, two helicopters circling overhead. They weren't taking cover or covering each other when they were moving about, they weren't pointing their rifles or in fear of anything happening but this was 100+ and they were just walking around the house in a circle - if there was a real counter-terror incident they'd be sitting ducks so this was weird as fuck. Nothing in the news about it (NDA?) but everyone from the surrounding blocks were rubbernecking and had their cellphones out, but nothing was on youtube of which I could find.

My mother went to an ophthalmologist and they used this eyedropped with the seemingly usual liquid but she said she tripped out like she was on LSD and she swears that a line of a dozen nurses came up to her in a row and said "I lost a child too, you know" and then the next one came along and said the same thing repeatedly in this ridiculous theatric fashion.

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[–] 16916234? ago 

There's been weird incidents like this where they're targeting my parents but not me.

Only weird thing I've noticed is I'm getting coddled at work and given undeserved opportunities and big breaks as of late and have impostor syndrome.

If this isn't just a bunch of coincidences and paranoia and there really is spook shenanigans, how do I convince them to back down and that they have no chance, that there's no third party with the power or knowledge to help them with this sort of thing? In this scenario my brother got snared and drugged and they won. His brain was too fried to give us actionable info and in this hypothetical situation five eyes knows exactly what my parents have done and are going to do whereas all my parents have are crumbs. They feel like it's their right to go up against the spooks but they're in a terrible position and not big ol brains by any means.

Like I could get a laptop with cash and remove the NSA backdoors and load up debian with a data dongle and start trying to be a hero (I don't know shit about netsec beyond basic knowledge) but they'd know and pre-empt because my brother put spotlights on us if this is true. There's no vantage point to get a drop on them.

I know it's "alpha" to go up against the spooks but this is unwinnable. How do I convince them to back down? They started getting extremely weird shit for refusing a settlement. Now they want to start sounding the alarm about a big conspiracy. That's getting into dangerous territory and it's going to rope me into it even though I've avoided involvement.

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[–] 16916229? ago 

bump

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[–] 16822179? ago 

Newfags: read this thread

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[–] 16822178? ago 

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[–] 16822177? ago 

Integrity matters more than anything. That’s why it’s important to be the change you wish to see in the world. No matter how mandatory abusive, narcissistic, or paranoid people may pretend that they are, always always always be disloyal to surveillance systems. Reveal the operation of such systems to their victims. Mangle such system’s reports before they reach to your superiors.

China doesn’t abuse the people of China with surveillance because Chinese leadership values integrity, but because they do not. Chinese dissidents are targeted for harassment and re-education into compliance. Producing the wrong art in China gets people marked as enemies of the state. Progressivism requires defense of the downtrodden!

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[–] 16822176? ago 

I believe the american footballers are talking about ME when they huddle in the center of the stadium

<the thread

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[–] 16822174? ago 

bamp

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