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[–] 16204247? ago 

Well, I torrent on VPN. It's adequate protection, to my mind.

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[–] 16204248? ago 

Isn't it hard to prove that a person posted something? I'm not familiar with case law for it but I've heard from a few colleagues at work that proving in court that someone posted something is extremely difficult unless identity checks are involved. VPN and a disposable laptop seems adequate.

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[–] 16204253? ago 

At what level? NSA or FBI? At the FBI level, they aren't permitted to utilize the mass surveillance system, so they rely on logs.

At your ISP, there are logs showing which customer is using which IP address. That IP address shows up in the logs of any sites you visit, they have a record (varying in quality) of your visits.

If you use a VPN, and the VPN doesn't keep logs, then you effectively wipe your trail. You are using that IP address that the VPN gives you, and that's what sites log. So even if the logs of a site are seized, there's no way to say who did it, because the VPN doesn't know, because they don't have the logs.

But if the VPN keeps a log, then the VPN just is one extra subpoena - they get the VPN log, then know which IP, then get the ISP log. So it's a series of hops, but in the end, you're deanonymized.

< vpn and disposable laptop adequate

Laptops aren't disposable. How many laptops have you disposed of this year?

Wait, you're suggesting using the laptop from HOME? omg LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Now, if you only used it, say, at Starbucks, better chances. But they have cameras, so it's not exactly perfect. And you really should never power up the laptop anywhere except in that remote spot, and you shouldn't get there by personal vehicle. Even using a bus pass is a bit dodgy. In really busy cities, you could probably still manage to be invisible.

Your colleagues are retarded. The government is quite happy to claim that you did everything your IP address did, which is why Windows is so shit, because if you get a trojan fuck knows what your computer might start doing (and the police dgaf about the truth - do you know about all of those supposed underage prostitute stings? Those are cops and the whores lying about their age. It's good for the cops, who are all corrupt, and it's good for the whores - they go to juvi, instead of real prison).

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But, in exchange, you get your soul back.

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[–] 16204254? ago 

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Well i dont think the cops arent all whores and corrupt, a bit distasteful and partisan and i dont really like that. But in that sense if it isnt clear cut what the cops are there for and what they do or cant do that can be easily abused for other purposes by different groups, that would be the downside for being a bit too smug.