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The MH17 story was a piece of crap from the start. Even if the rebels did shoot it down, it was Ukraine's fault.The plane was way off course flying right over one of the most critical battles of the war. There were ground attack planes in the air, and some had already been shot down by AA. The Chicago convention on air safety forbids passenger planes from flying over war zones. The air space was uncontrolled as the Ukrainians had already bombed the Donetsk air traffic control tower. The only conclusion is that Kiev air traffic control had directed the plane to fly into harm's way. To this day, Kiev refuses to hand over the air traffic control tapes or even to divulge who was in their control tower on that day. The Dutch investigators sat on their asses in Kiev for two weeks, demanding a rebel surrender so they could approach the wreckage across the front line. Meanwhile, real journalists were freely approaching the wreck from the rebel side. When the investigators finally stopped partying in Kiev, they refused to interview any eye-witnesses. The Dutch government was basically complicit in the murder of 200 of their own citizens. Wasn't the first time. They are scum. As for Malaysia, they can't tell us where MH370 went or where MH17 came from. They shouldn't be allowed to have an airline.

I wish I could share your optimism about knowing the truth. It's been half a century since JFK, RFK, and MLK were killed, and the assassination attempt on George Wallace. The official story on 9/11 doesn't even make sense. The longer these murders are covered up, the less chance the truth will ever come out. In all cases, including Poland, the people who know the truth are the guilty ones.