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[–] 16090843? ago 

revolutionary france society was fucked.

true

but its this era that created napoleon and led to the last great era of french dominance over the world.

sometimes things have to get worse before they get better. and sometimes its that "worse" that produces the humans capable of making things "better"

>>12670139

this

its obviously time

the EU has always been the jumping off point in my mind. it was tried in brexit, but it seems frexit will be the deathblow

the difference is why one has failed and the other might succeed.

brexit was done politically, through the usual channels. it has been thoroughly beauracracy'D and blocked.

this french one is being done violently

its super effective

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[–] 16090850? ago 

Napoleon didn't create anything; he was a catastrophe. He took the finest men in France and Europe, led them deep into Russia then fucked off and left them there to die frozen to death on a fool's errand, permanently crippling France. Funny, Frederick the Great did the same thing for Germany, as did Charles XII for Sweden and Hitler for Germany. It's like the puppet masters pulling the strings do this shit to get rid of the most powerful bodies and minds of the white race. WWI was the same thing; just march young men, the best most courageous young men into the mud pit then blow them up by the millions day in day out. Europe still hasn't recovered.

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[–] 16092581? ago 

Fredrick the great did the same thing

Fredrick defeated all his rivals and turned Prussia into a great power. Open a fucking history book ami dog.

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[–] 16091784? ago 

Russia was planning to invade germany retard, quit lying about Hitler

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[–] 16090851? ago 

the first half of his career was quite spectacular however.

perhaps i should use an example more palatable for the wider /pol/ack audience.

can you think of any austrians who, after participating in the devastation that was WWI, went on to achieve very great things?

war is almost always a net negative when looked at from most perspectives.

but it seems to breed a certain type of person, out of necessity, that can then go on to achieve things that most people could never dream of. these people are a byproduct of senseless destruction and yet they seem to be a vital component of the "revolutionary birth/death" cycle that anon was talking about.

like a miniature, geopolitical version of the yugas

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[–] 16089792? ago 

revolution is the social equivalent of the birth and death cycle of life, it cannot be avoided forever.