[–] Master_Foo ago (edited ago)
I'll lay it out for you. I'm pretty neutral on Sargon of Applebees. Hell, I'll even laugh when Metokur has some good bants against him. So it shouldn't take much to convince me. But, you haven't.
I mean, Jesus Fucking Christ dude. Laughing at misfortune when it happens isn't the same thing as advocating for misfortune. This is SJW levels of logic you are bringing to the table.
I mean, I don't WANT anyone to stub their toe. But, when it happens, fuck it dude, I'm going to laugh, because what the fuck else am I going to do? You want me to kiss it better or something?
You can call me a hypocrite when I actively try to stub your toe. That's when it matters. So... When has Sargon of Applebees ever tried to stub someone's toe?
Free speech is supposed to be the first principal of sargon's "liberalist" movement but his words and actions often show he doesn't care that much about it.
OK, I'm not here to defend Sargon. I'm just pointing out that your logic is flawed. You can object to something happening and still laugh at it. It's OK to laugh.
But, OK, I'll bite. Sargon says he defends free speech. So, when has he ever censored anyone?
but when tommy robinson got arrested for speaking in a public place sargon immediately threw him under the bus
Meh, I like Tommy, but the dude was technically breaking British law when he got arrested. Hey, I get it. The law is fucked up. The problem with Tommy getting arrested wasn't that he was arrested. The problem was the Kangaroo court he went through afterwards. Since you are so obsessed with Sargon, maybe you can point to the place where Sargon defended the Kangaroo court? That would be significant. But, as far as I can tell Sargon just said "The law is fucked up and Tommy got arrested". Which isn't hypocritical. It's just a statement of the facts.
Spend your time criticizing the law dude. When you obsess over Sargon, you are obsessing over the wrong thing here.
and when people that said things he didn't like got censored he made fun of them and even jokingly advocated for more people to get censored.
Fuck me dude. I don't even want to defend Sargon. But, the key word here: JOKINGLY. So, it was a joke. Do you not understand humor? Nobody can make a joke? There is a difference between laughing at misfortune and advocating for misfortune. ESPECIALLY if it is a joke. Grow a pair dude.
Sargon is a piece of shit
Wow dude. Did this guy steal your nose when you were a child or something? Never quite forgave him for that one? I mean, you just wrote paragraphs railing on the guy and your best attack was "He described the law in the Tommy Robinson case and then he made a joke."
[–] Rainy-Day-Dream ago
but he openly advocated for it, after the Wallstreet journal got the ralph report banned off youtube not only did he say that was funny but he retweeted a call tagging the wall street journal for the same thing to happen to andy warski, he also reported metokur to twitter support more than once, even if he's joking it's pretty clear he doesn't care as much about free speech or take it as seriously as he'd like anyone to believe. He's also pushed for self censorship numerous times openly advocating that the alt-right or people like tommy robinson shouldn't say things that might get them in trouble even though he's supposed to be against hate speech laws. Sargon has shown over and over with his words and actions that he doesn't care about free speech
[–] Master_Foo ago
OK, I'll go down the rabbit hole with you on this one. You have any sources more credible than the Cow Board?
[–] Master_Foo ago
OK, I just thought of a better way to put this.
I really get into "Free Man of the Land" "Sovereign Citizen" cases. As a person who is rather Libertarianish, it tickles my funny bone.
However, as much as I want to defend these nut jobs, I have to acknowledge that the law doesn't work the way the Sovereign Citizens want it to work. This doesn't make me a hypocrite. It makes me a realist. I can sympathize with these nut jobs and even advocate for some of the wacky stuff they believe and still point out that they are incorrect.
[–] Rainy-Day-Dream ago
nothing a libertarian advocates for would protect crazy people who misunderstand outdated laws, but if someone advocates for free speech as their first principal that should include speech they don't like or think is a bad idea.